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Roger Dowding
10-09-2019, 04:59 AM
Those " Cheetah " Cheetahs are nice ERC, not the Bill Thomas style but good looking cars !!
Hey, it is a 'Mix of Pics'.
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A local Real Estate agent has this limited edition JCW Cooper S. All original and only a two seater. Also has one of the last, original shape Mini Coopers.
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Not what it appears to be. The Walbran's very quick K Series engined Midget.
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"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery"
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Kevin found the handling of the Speedex a bit wayward!
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Goodwood FOS 2002
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Oldfart
10-26-2019, 01:20 PM
Ray, I do love that you show such a variety of cars. Not all to my liking, but it shows that there is something for everyone. I know that not all will like what I do too.
It's so much more interesting, to me at least, that you don't post a whole lot of photos of the same car in different poses. Thanks for the effort, I get bogged down trying to do a few resizes!
Thanks for that. Funnily enough, there are pics of cars I don't really care for either! Sometimes, it just happens to be either a sample of what is going on or once in a blue moon, a half decent photograph.
In terms of resizing Rhys, if you downloaded that resizer programme, you can resize the copies in bulk. Go to the directory where the copies are stored using Windows Explorer. (Just make sure they are copies and not the originals!)
Click on the first pic and hit 'CTRL' and 'A' and that should shade/select ALL pics in that directory. Right click on 'Resize' on whatever size you want or input 750 pixels and all should be good.
Caffeine and Classics again today. Despite having been many times now, there are always cars I haven't seen there before. Always an enjoyable hour or so and more often than not, plenty of people to chat to.
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Its a German day...
Steve Bolton
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Ken Williams, along with older brothers, 'Racing Ray', Dennis and Tony plus younger brother Allan must have set a world record or two when they competed in the 24 Hours Lemons.
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Bryce Platt has been around for a long time and is still going very quickly.
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Nice to see Kerry back - but I do NOT like cars painted matt black! At least the orange lifts it a bit. Now and again, at our daily garden centre coffee stop, there is a convertible Bentley, painted matt black with black wheels. Yeuk.
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Seems I have quite a backlog to file and also that means, plenty to upload...
The great thing now about Caffeine & Classics is that clubs decide to meet there, before a Sunday drive to another location. These were taken back in August.
Riley
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...and the model is, …….wait for it, ……. a car!
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Of all the cars I have owned, the RME Riley would be the one I wish I had acquired when I had the facilities to restore it. (Pic is a 2.5 litre RMB.) I let mine go without touching it but was always amazed at how well it drove, even with a rattly stuffed big end. The first rear wheel drive car I had owned. Made a profit on the sale too.
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Roger Dowding
10-29-2019, 01:39 AM
EG774 a Riley Car ;
What we do know [Carjam is not perfect ] is this...
Year: 1937
Make: RILEY
Model: CAR
Colour: Green
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: EG774
Engine No: A5882
Chassis: 27A5882
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car/Van
Seats: 5
CC rating: 1,200cc
Fuel Type: Petrol
Assembly Type: Unknown
Country of Origin: United Kingdom
So as Ray says it is a " Riley Car ".
There is this though - about the plates = Rego Plates
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Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: Re-Registered
NZ First Registration: 16-Jul-1971
NZ Last Registration: Get Full CarJam Report
Was Registered Overseas? No "
So Re-registered - presume when restored - as used to let Rego's lapse back in the day, if the car was being repaired /restored or just stored
- Then they The " Gumment ". LTSA VTNZ Dept of Transport whatever, made it that you had to Register for 3 months every two years to retain the plates.
Then continuous Registration came in so now you either Register every year or get the Plates/Rego Number put on hold for a period in order to retain the Plate .. as seems to have happened with [ was mine 1978 -85 ] Triumph TR4A.
Personalised Plates is another story - an expensive one..
Waves to Frans, top left...
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MOTAT (The Auckland Museum of Transport and Technology) now seems to be aimed at young school children so the number of cars on display is dismal.
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MOTAT again
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Kevin Hirst
10-30-2019, 07:26 PM
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MOTAT again
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Had the pleasure of putting the deal for sale & purchase of MJ1936 fron Otaga to northland & also getting it up to W.O.F state for new owner, now it lives in Mangawhai, neat little car.
Agree Kevin. Neat little car.
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No programme produced for this Hampton Downs meeting... First time ever.
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You have to love the variety at Caffeine & Classics! (This was August.)
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Compared to the above, take off the badge and you have no idea what it is...
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Aren't we lucky that we grew up at a time when a major manufacturer brought out a new model and it was totally different from either it's competitors or predecessors.
Remember 1959? (Some of you won't of course...) but no one could confuse the Ford Anglia, Triumph Herald, Mini, Saab 95, Panhard PL17 and a whole heap more.
nigel watts
10-31-2019, 09:34 PM
[/QUOTE]Aren't we lucky that we grew up at a time when a major manufacturer brought out a new model and it was totally different from either it's competitors or predecessors.
Remember 1959? (Some of you won't of course...) but no one could confuse the Ford Anglia, Triumph Herald, Mini, Saab 95, Panhard PL17 and a whole heap more.[/QUOTE]
Yes & I keep reminding myself of that.
Three wheels on the ground - CRC Speedshow
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Milan Fistonic
11-01-2019, 03:51 AM
A slightly larger three-wheeler. The yellow model had the number plate MINUS 1
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Good plates Milan!
This was at C & C last Sunday.
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John McKechnie
11-01-2019, 10:01 PM
Always good to see a straight 8 car built by the company that made the BEST Spitfire/Mustang/Mosquito/Lancaster engines
Trevor Sheffield
11-02-2019, 12:20 AM
Are you saying that Rolls Royce could not properly make their in-house designed engine ? Interesting that the Mustang was NBG without it. LOL
Coming soon - Pukekohe November 3rd.
David Metford's leap from a fairly standard Ford Escort, to this Ford Escort!
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Spgeti
11-03-2019, 04:49 AM
Coming soon - Pukekohe November 3rd.
David Metford's leap from a fairly standard Ford Escort, to this Ford Escort!
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What a fantastic job on this car guys. Looks superb and is in the right ownership.
Andrew Metford
11-03-2019, 10:58 AM
What a fantastic job on this car guys. Looks superb and is in the right ownership.
Thank you. We had a really great day today, lots of encouragement from everybody, and the car was well received. Most nights of the last 6 months spent out in the garage stripping, fixing, and rebuilding every part of the car was all worth it today. Unfortunately the only part of the car car we haven't touched ( fuel pump and filter ) let us down half a lap from home in the last race. But we'll get that sorted out and tune a few other things up and have another go at Manfield in a few weeks time.
It was also great to finally meet Dale Mathers today, along with Graeme Park, Adrian Dobbe, Jennifer Mossman, Richard Quinn, Bob Hyslop, and a few other people who's names I've forgotten ( or didn't hear properly because we had earplugs in ). I hope Spgeti will come and see us at Manfield so we can finally put a face to the name.
Now I just need to find a Sports Sedan for me so I can race with my brother instead of being his spanner-man ( not that I mind that though ) :cool:
Spgeti
11-03-2019, 09:42 PM
Hi Andrew,
Glad you and David enjoyed yourselves.
Manfeild is my home track and I only live 2 minutes away so I will be there organising our group and give Dale a rest....yeah right !
We will catch up.
Regards
Bruce
I should point out that David and Andrew and their parents are one of those families who have put a tremendous amount of volunteer time into car club events, for many years, in their case, with the MG Car Club. We could never have run successful race events without the Metford Clan running the dummy grid.
Look forward to you getting a suitable car Andrew!
Another before images are transferred to the PC.
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John McKechnie
11-04-2019, 09:03 AM
Thank you. We had a really great day today, lots of encouragement from everybody, and the car was well received. Most nights of the last 6 months spent out in the garage stripping, fixing, and rebuilding every part of the car was all worth it today. Unfortunately the only part of the car car we haven't touched ( fuel pump and filter ) let us down half a lap from home in the last race. But we'll get that sorted out and tune a few other things up and have another go at Manfield in a few weeks time.
It was also great to finally meet Dale Mathers today, along with Graeme Park, Adrian Dobbe, Jennifer Mossman, Richard Quinn, Bob Hyslop, and a few other people who's names I've forgotten ( or didn't hear properly because we had earplugs in ). I hope Spgeti will come and see us at Manfield so we can finally put a face to the name.
Now I just need to find a Sports Sedan for me so I can race with my brother instead of being his spanner-man ( not that I mind that though ) :cool:
Andrew- just Copy it....you should know every nut and bolt by now
A few more from the 'waiting to be posted pile'.
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...and a few from Sunday
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In practice, Phil was going like a rocket, straight out of the box. Sadly, he overdid it in race 1.
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Start of Historics, race 1
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Practice
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My apologies that all pics from Pukekohe are from left to right, but recovering from a cataract op just three days earlier, I opted to call it day early, (before lunch) rather than hike around to another vantage point, just to get some shots of cars going from right to left and exposing my eyes to the welcome but very bright sun. The sun is so much brighter and colours more vivid now both eyes have been done...
Bruce302
11-05-2019, 10:04 AM
My apologies that all pics from Pukekohe are from left to right, but recovering from a cataract op just three days earlier, I opted to call it day early, (before lunch) rather than hike around to another vantage point, just to get some shots of cars going from right to left and exposing my eyes to the welcome but very bright sun. The sun is so much brighter and colours more vivid now both eyes have been done...
Your pics are much appreciated Ray, sorry we missed you.
I know about the eyes, it is amazing isn't it.
Double trouble, ey lads? Maybe I should have taken the bazooka lens but I opted to leave it in the car.
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khyndart in CA
11-05-2019, 09:35 PM
Great action photos Ray,
Thanks for sharing with us.
But I do think the Monaro wheels need to be shinier !:cool:
Ken H.
John McKechnie
11-05-2019, 10:11 PM
Good help is hard to find .............
If I don't clear the backlog, it just grows and grows...
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an american Austin 7 ute pictured, called a bantam. only the second one i have ever seen.
Roger Dowding
11-06-2019, 05:54 AM
Great action photos Ray,
Thanks for sharing with us.
But I do think the Monaro wheels need to be shinier !:cool:
Ken H.
Agree Ken H [ Hy ]... with the comments Great action ... and Thanks .. The Wheels ..
Or is That /That is an American thing all show and no go !! John Mck 's Car looks brilliant .. Thanks again ERC ..
Roger Dowding
11-06-2019, 06:28 AM
A bit like the " Riley Car " but this is a .....
" Year: 1937
Make: AUSTIN
Model: 10
Colour: Green
Body Style: Utility
VIN: 7AT00T16X17127899
Plate: MFJ915
Engine No: 589883
Chassis: G/RL127899
Vehicle Type: Goods Van/Truck/Utility
Seats: 2
CC rating: 1,500cc "
" Plates History
Plate Effective Date
MFJ915 18-Jun-2019
OS9125 08-Jan-1990
Registration
Registration Status: Get Full CarJam Report
Plate: MFJ915
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: Re-Registered
NZ First Registration: 08-Jan-1990 "
Bit of a gap from 1937 to 1990 .. ??
I think it is great, coming from an Austin Riley Morris Family - except for the Arroll Johnson my Dad and Uncle's jointly owned first car - family was Austin Nuffield from the 1930's until the 1980's My Dad had Austins and Rileys from the late 1930's until mid 1950's when Ford ruled a Prefect up to 1963 then a Zephyr 1963 - 68 and back to Austins an 1800 Landcrab and then an Allegro { Aggro } a car I did not like.
Uncle Ed of NSCC fame had Austin Morris Riley's several - back to Morris a Minor in the mid 1950's with some oddballs a Standard Vanguard whilst in Ceylon 1955 ish, and an Opel when in Egypt in 1960 -61 ..then a Triumph Herald a Mark 3 Zodiac followed by that Rover P6B and the last interesting car an SD1 Rover Van den Plas Vitesse with Walkinshaw mods ..
The first Austin .. a 1929/30 seven ..
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My Dad's Dog my Uncle and a Best Mate - photo by my Dad .. the jointly owned Austin Seven
That P6B borrowed the car for a Day - he didn't know this happened until a few years ago .. told him and he smiled ..
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The last interesting car the SD1 .with an earlier Rover a P4..
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i need to claim a mistake. the austin7 ute is not an american bantam it has the wrong nose and grill. sorry about that.
John McKechnie
11-06-2019, 08:34 AM
Agree Ken H [ Hy ]... with the comments Great action ... and Thanks .. The Wheels ..
Or is That /That is an American thing all show and no go !! John Mck 's Car looks brilliant .. Thanks again ERC ..
Thanks Roger...here in NZ you dont have to go to a Museum to see real Historic race cars, they are in their natural environment
...race track....YAY
On a different note altogether. A few years ago I went to the Caistor Castle Motor Museum in Norfolk, but wasn't very happy that they didn't allow photographs, though the collection is large and well laid out.
Doing some family research, it seems that the paternal line is well and truly entrenched in Norfolk villages so I have pencilled in a bit of a visit next year, before Goodwood. I sent off an email to Caistor and it seems they have now changed their policy, so I have added it onto my itinerary. I'm rather hoping that there is a race meeting on at Snetterton (maybe an Aston Martin meeting on the August Bank Holiday Monday?) just to make it all really worthwhile heading that way. I haven't been to Snetterton before!
Andrew Metford
11-07-2019, 12:31 AM
Andrew- just Copy it....you should know every nut and bolt by now
David knows every nut and bolt too, so does that mean we can build 2 more? LOL :cool:
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Willys Replica
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When it comes to cars, beauty is definitely in the eye of the beholder...
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Over the years, I am somewhat surprised that there are so few historic sports racing cars competing, given that there must have been hundreds around.
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Can someone please confirm the make of this car? "Ford MP21" in the programme but further research suggests it might be a Dulon.
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khyndart in CA
11-07-2019, 11:30 PM
That is Michael Clark in his yellow Formula Ford Crossle 32F number 32.
Plus I found this 1978 Formula Ford ad. for Jonathan Palmer.
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Not quite the same as your # 33 car but interesting.
Could # 33 be a Van Diemen Formula Ford ?
(Ken H )
Milan Fistonic
11-07-2019, 11:57 PM
There are a few photos of a Dulon MP21 on this Australian advert from 2015
https://www.facebook.com/groups/203462329791018/search/?query=Dulon%20MP21&epa=SEARCH_BOX
(Dr) Jonathan Palmer raced a V6 (Ford) Marcos. Chris Barber's former road manager, Richard Oliver, used to race an MG Midget and tells the story of Jonathan Palmer's Marcos mangling a gearbox in practice, then raiding a Ford Transit van in the paddock, 'borrowing' the gearbox for the race, then returning it to the Transit... I love these sorts of stories - and Richard is a magical story teller. With 25 years on the road, with arguably Britain's best ever Jazz Band, there are plenty of stories. Some are in fact, repeatable!
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Two from the same garage...
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Continuing the theme - "a Mix of Pics..."
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Roger Dowding
11-11-2019, 04:20 AM
Saw that Jet thing at Pukekohe during the interval at the Supercars on 14th September
Lots of noise and vibration but very underwhelming when it putted out on a run down the start finish line..
that is because it needs more air Roger 40 sq ft is not enough lol cubic feet different thing
Amy Smith's Formula First ?????. Make? I have been in touch with the Formula First people and had a very quick reply. Built originally as a 'Challenge' but rebuilt after a crash at Pukekohe with a previous owner.
Amy and her team appear to be doing a great job in the publicity department.
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After a six month sojourn with Angus, good to see the V8 Escort, with Gordon Burr at the helm, out again. Gordon was caught out at scrutineering with a couple of issues, including the need for the screen race numbers, another of those recent race regulations that have crept in to catch the unwary.
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Not...
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Just when I thought that the system was so much better when only posting 4 pics per post, have to return to this post and upload again...
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One of the lesser known Formula Juniors. It doesn't appear in most lists of Formula Junior cars, so a big thumbs up to John Rapley for coming to the party with this rare 1963 Talisman.
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Roger Dowding
11-16-2019, 04:40 AM
Not ;
But what - I like it .. Thought [ only thought mind you - as not enough of a mechanic / engineer to do it ] the a Dolomite Sprint Twincam would go great in a Bug-eye - either that or a 12A Mazda Rotary with a 5 speed.. Well they did put the Triumph 1500 motor in the last MG Midgets - so Triumph Motor not to far removed ..
Do you know what it is - excuse my ignorance here .. love the Webers .. too !! *** ??
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I really should pay attention - look familiar .. *** ?? answered.
Not a Bugeye but a Mark two with a special nose - opens like a Bugeye and the " Mota' " is Toyota.
Car belongs to Alan Horner, and I thought it had a Nissan motor but not so ..
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Yep, Alan Horner's car. Although I am no purist, and also accept that the Toymotor option is an easy one, the Triumph Dolly Sprint engine caused Geoff Sparkes a few headaches. (His car, #20 by the way, went to the late Ian Hope's museum in Napier.) I prefer to keep at least country of origin the same with transplants. Just got the Magnette through a WoF - eventually, as it failed due to a collapsed nolathane bush in the rear springs. Car has only travelled 700kms... Tony suggests the bush was slightly out of alignment.
Ticked off a couple of 'Blue List' jobs on the house, so enough brownie points to get back onto the car for a while...
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Tony Durham's car was at Auto garage (Porana Rd) at the same time as my Magnette. Seems he was at school with the proprietor, Tony and also one of the Sampson boys. Three out of the same class, years later, well into motorsport.
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Dennis didn't have a good day...
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Spgeti
11-18-2019, 06:23 AM
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Dennis didn't have a good day...
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The Freighters was all repaired and in action at The MG Classic on the weekend.
This was the result of an oil line letting go and if it was not for a wider runoff on the front straight at Pukekohe and his skill it would of been worse.
The run off is new and long overdue!
As one who had a nasty accident at what was then 'John Deere', (since renamed 'O Deere'), coming across a car, spinning on its roof in the centre of the track, having no escape route on the inside, whilst driving flat out, meant that an expensive and potentially injurious crash was inevitable. Street circuits have to be lined with concrete. Permanent race tracks don't.
Dennis had already experienced a hiccup at turn one/two, a lap earlier but after half a minute or so, managed to restart.
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Phil Foulkes is now keen to sell his V6 Marcos if anyone is interested. Ex Richard Atkinson, wooden chassis. There is also a part restored V4 Marcos for sale (in Auckland) and my own car, straight 6 Marcos will also be up for sale once I have got it up to WoF standard. That is over 25% of the NZ Marcos' potentially for sale...
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2004 - Pukekohe
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2018 Goodwood
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2019
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This would be a great spot to use the bazooka lens at Goodwood, but at 2.5kg and limited places where it would be useful, I opted to leave it at home. Depending on how my luggage stacks up in 2020, I may gamble on taking it, but will NOT be carrying it around all day! We may have a NZ Formula Junior or two there in 2020, so at least I may be able to park the lens in the paddock after using it for an hour or two.
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Bagby Special earlier in 2019.
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By the time Formula Junior went rear-engined, much of the visual individuality was lost.
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Just a reminder that many of the posts from this meeting are from practice. Experience has taught us that often, a car may only appear for one practice lap, never to be seen again, so I tend to snap, even on the out lap in practice, just to try and cover the field. That means that very often, a car will display more 'attitude' later in practice or during the races.
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This was during race 1 for ERC/Arrow Wheel's cars.
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A dig into the Z archives... As an aside, even though I'd passed my driving tests in 1964 (car and bike), we had no family car and apart from a couple of short outings in a Mini van, I hadn't done any car driving for a year and the leader of our experimental Scout & Guide group, realising that as an under 21, I couldn't drive one of the hired minibuses to a camp in south Wales, handed over the keys of his Mk 2 Zephyr for the week.
Wherever we went from the camp, I had to do a double journey as there weren't enough seats in the transport we had. That meant a lot of night driving around south Wales, in addition to the trip to and from Nottingham. I developed a love of night driving on country lanes that week and although I say it myself, a degree of expertise that I would never have achieved otherwise.
Cadwell Park 1977 - must try and get back there as I haven't been since about 1978.
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Donington 1980 - before the catch fencing ruined the view
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Whenuapai 1991 - Mal Clark's ute
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Caffeine & Classics August 2019. Same plate. Not the same vehicle.
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Caffeine & Classics - November taster
Anyone know about this? Genuine Cobra?
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Star of the meet.
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Roger Dowding
11-25-2019, 07:47 PM
Caffeine & Classics - November taster
Anyone know about this? Genuine Cobra?
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Star of the meet.
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Are you teasing us Ray .. just the badges .. The Doretti .." Six Stars " ..
Not this month's meet...
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Lola Formula Ford(s)
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Genuine MG BV8
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Non-genuine MG ZA V8 - still WiP (Work in Progress). Flattering view of the door panel gaps... Bonnet(s), front panel, internal radiator support and bumpers are all fibreglass. Bumpers are to original spec/size but will be extended as the original 'hockey stick' trims are as scarce as hen's teeth. I have a better quality radiator grille surround and grille to fit, but that won't be until more fibreglass work has been done and panels painted - or vinyl wrapped, which may be an easier and cheaper option.
Trafficators still work! Front side lights have been converted to flashers and the original headlamps replaced by 'Mini' items, with a built in sidelight.
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khyndart in CA
11-27-2019, 12:42 AM
Thank you Ray for helping me learn what a Doretti was/ is.
https://classicmotorsports.com/articles/rare-bird-swallow-doretti/
(Ken H)
I posted a Doretti pic back in 2018 - not this pic, but this car. Often called a Swallow Doretti due to the links with Swallow (as per Swallow Sidecars/Jaguar).
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2019 Sunday November 24th. This one has a bit of history. Was once owned by Rootes Group and Triumph works driver, Tiny Lewis.
"Based on the Triumph TR2 it had much improved stability, its track was 3 in (76 mm) wider and its wheelbase 7 in (178 mm) longer. The Doretti had a tubular Reynolds 531 manganese–molybdenum, medium-carbon steel chassis. Reynolds was another member of the T I Group. The double-skinned body had an inner structural skin made of steel and an aluminium outer skin. Most cars were supplied with Laycock-de Normanville electric epicyclic overdrive and they were capable of 100 mph. 276 Mk I cars were made, including a single fixed head coupe version. The car was designed by in-house engineer Frank Rainbow, and produced in the TI factory at The Airport, Walsall, Staffordshire, England."
Believed to be one of the last built.
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Ellerslie 2004
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John McKechnie
11-27-2019, 09:05 AM
thanks for this posting Ray....Nice front on the Doretti, grille has similarity to Nash Healey which I prefer to Austin Healey
Doing a Nigel and dipping into the past now and again...
Oulton Park 1975
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Curborough 1982
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Goodwood FoS 2002
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Goodwood FoS 2004
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2007 - BSA
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Genuine - not a kit...
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1968
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1970
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1983
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1996
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Roger Dowding
11-28-2019, 09:54 PM
A mix as slides are picked out of the pile and as some had already been partially sorted, a batch of Austin Healeys is inevitable.
Ian Richardson's Chev Corvair - using a borrowed camera (with cruddy Fuji film) this was the first time I'd ever managed to use a camera with a longer lens than standard.
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Probably 1977 but definitely Donington.
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Donington again, 1980
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Note to Terry S. it took almost an hour to get this one pic in a fit state to upload as it just wouldn't scan properly, probably as the plastic slide holder was somewhat out of shape and the slide wouldn't sit flat, which distorted the image. After 3 scans, I removed it from the plastic and mounted it in glass.
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Western Springs, probably November 1992.
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Bringing this post to the fore.
The Sprite was EC4802 that I owned at one stage the Left Hand Drive ex Canada car AN5L7311 .. Max and Craig Fisher owned it after me in 1980 and it went to Ross Hollings in 1987 - Ross sent me the EC4802 Registration Papers a few years back when the Rego was cancelled - Car is now in Japan - believe sold around 1990 - but seems could be a bit later.
The Red 100 Six ? / early 3000 - I am unsure whose
A Ross Hollings photo of the Car .. around 1990 with the " 59BUGI " Registration.
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PS Ray - just been going back over your thread as have been looking for photos of a Marina V8 Coupe .. came across this set of Austin Healey's - have " borrowed " them.
Cheers Roger D
Roger Dowding
11-28-2019, 10:28 PM
Terrapin at Shelsey Walsh 1967
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John Watson in the Brabham Alfa at the British GP 1977. Even in those days, the wire fencing was a real pain, but I doubt I'd ever get anywhere near a hospitality suite these days! At that time, I had recently finished retraining and had only been back on a regular income for a month, so I only took a few pics. Times were very tough with a mortgage to pay...
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Donington July 1980.
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Ardmore 1989 - by a process of elimination and film matching!
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Diane Sharp (then a local in Hamilton) with her Ford V6 engine Marcos, that started life as a V4. This car was eventually sold at auction, but the owner died not too long afterwards. I have been in touch with his widow, but not recently. A little reclusive...
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My original comment on this post was about the Hawke bodied car beside the Marcos - Race #11 .. Ray mentioned not having the Programme.
Thanks to Remi Rutkowski now have the programmes for both the 1993 and 1994 Telecom Classic Motor Races held in Frankton/Hamilton in those two years..
Here is the entry and results for the 1994 event Races 1 and 2 - Sports Cars - for the Marcos and Car #11 .. a " Ford Scorpion ". Now we know ! wonder where that car is now ?? .
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Diane Sharpe's car (Marcos #17 above) was originally a V4 but converted to V6. Diane sold it at auction I believe and it was bought by a guy in Taupo, who passed away not too long after. His widow was tricky to deal with (not in a nasty way, far from it) but I'm not sure what has happened to it since. It would certainly need a full restoration.
Phil Jackson's V4 - part restored is for sale, but I haven't yet been to see it.
Phil Foulkes' plywood V6 is also for sale.
My 3 litre Volvo may also be for sale probably 2020 - when I can get back to it and get it through a WoF and back on the road. Shouldn't be too difficult - I hope.
Also need to shift the 1961 Greeves Villers single which also needs finishing, assembling properly and wiring etc. Number plate in the UK (still on the UK system) is worth at least 5 times the value of the bike!
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Roger Dowding
11-29-2019, 05:09 AM
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Found my Hamilton Programme at last. I had it alongside the laptop and hidden under a book, (my wife probably tidied up...) rather than in the box or pile of programmes in what I refer to as an office and my wife refers to as either a tip or a no-go area.
Car 11 is down in the programme as a 1961 Ford Scorpion and driven by Kylie Walker. Such an error prone programme that it may or may not be 100% correct - and I can't remember seeing the car since. An internet search hasn't shown up anything though.
Ray I just found the old post and put the entry list / results for the races 1994 Telecom .. you got the Christian name .. Thanks
2005 - when Chicane had the merchandising rights for Rally NZ. Auckland viaduct area.
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2012 Maranello
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2012 Monaco
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2019
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One of Dad's 1937 Donington pics. Note Starkey's bridge in the background... The trees to the right now well gone.
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Daily Express meeting at Silverstone 1963 - also Dad's pic. Innes Ireland,
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Chris Summers Lotus V8, Mallory Park 1966
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Andy Culpin built Race FX - SFX - Frank Karl
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Apologies if any of these older ones have been shown before, but initially, I never kept a file of TRS postings, but now I do... Over 6,500 images I am aware of.
Donington 1937. Carraciola (T W Green photo)
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Prescott 1970. HWM Jaguar
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2002 When the Donington Racing Car Collection was still the best in the world.
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Goodwood Festival of Speed's annual sculpture. Always impressive.
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Roger Dowding
12-02-2019, 02:38 AM
Great stuff as always ... and 888,504 views when I clocked in will be more now !!
1937 Von Brauchitsch
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2009 Love unique cars, especially this one.
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2012 Penske
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2016 Frazer Nash
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1973 Mallory Park (also posted on the Legends thread).
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2012 Monaco
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2019
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2012 Monaco. I'd have to say that I wouldn't attend this meeting again, as it was only through our links with the McLaren Trust and a bit of cheek on the Friday, that I got anywhere except our designated stand. Even though adjacent stands were less than a third full, the jobsworths would only allow access to the one stand.
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2015
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2016 - one of my favourite vantage points at Leadfoot was here, but now not accessible...
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2018
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1970 - June Mallory Park
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1972 Curborough
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1973 Silverstone
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1997 Manfeild
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2009 Goodwood
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2016 Leadfoot
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2018 Goodwood
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2019 Smales Farm
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Roger Dowding
12-07-2019, 05:27 AM
ERC, Ray, the Monza Jaguar - offset driving position, so presume could be run as a Sports car with cycle guards and lights and a - ' nominal ' passenger seat. I like it.
MX5 with spare in the Continental position, not so sure !!.
Keep them coming.
Apart from maybe the Caffeine & Classics, last event of the year today. Bright sun early on was still causing me a bit of discomfort after the two cataract ops, so I didn't stay long - but did manage to get the ex Geoff Bonham (Leisuretime), ex yours truly, ex Derek Moore, ex Miles Petersen, ex Steve Harris (AES) MGB GT fired up...
A newcomer(!) to the ERC grid today, Paul Adams.
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I'm not a huge fan of American cars, but it doesn't stop me adding pics to my library!
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Bazooka lens day... All pics taken during practice.
New owner Rob Berrgren driving his own car, instead of former owner Bruce Manon.
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Today will be the last picture postings until just after Christmas, as we are off to the Big Smoke (Sydney...) tomorrow and cruising back to NZ. Depending on internet access on the Ruby Princess, there may or may not be an occasional post.
Just the sort of car we once took for granted.
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Sunday December 8th 2019
BMC Formula Junior
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Not Joseph Lucas...
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No idea who owns this - but it did overtake me in the 80kph limit around Manurewa. Mind you, just about everyone overtakes me in the 80kph limits, even though I am going about 85-88...
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Still at sea. But Merry Christmas to all regulars who pop into this thread.
Looking at a Nikon P900 camera (fixed lens) on board, but did a Google review and it seems they only do 360 pics per battery charge.
However, have an x83 zoom, equivalent to 2000mm - twice as long as my bazooka lens. Tempted, but will wait until ashore I think and have a chat with the local camera shop. If anyone has any experience of this camera, feel free to offer advice.
nigel watts
12-26-2019, 02:56 AM
https://www.tomsguide.com/us/nikon-coolpix-p900,review-3707.html
Thanks Nigel. I'm aware of its shortcomings, but bought one anyway! Mainly for Goodwood, but I'll still be relying on my usual camera for the majority of shots. I'll have to try it out at the next local race meeting though, as I know the viewing limitations of Goodwood are relatively few, but that long lens facility opens up other options. May even give it a try at Caffeine & Classics on Sunday.
Sample from the new camera - Caffeine & Classics December. Happy so far with the wide angle of the camera.
Just driving out early and missed the beautiful modified E Type Jaguar. Andy Culpin was around for the first time and I'm guessing it might have been his!
A UK kit car I hadn't heard of before, though they have been around since about 1983, based on a Triumph Spitfire/GT6 I believe. Vincent Hurricane.
Always something new at this really enjoyable monthly event. I'll miss the next two unfortunately.
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At this time of the year, I try and start a massive clean up of all computer files, which effectively means every pic (not just car stuff) is categorised and filed, clearing out the 'to do' pile. They all are copied to other external hard drives - and then we carry on for another year.
So a few digs into the 'not yet published pile' for posting on here, as there is a bit of a backlog.
November C & C - Canon compact camera. (Disappeared, so reposted...)
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Roger Dowding
12-30-2019, 05:08 AM
Good to see the photos ERC, like the Spitfire / GT6 based car - looks smart.
Heard a Rumour that an MG Magnette V8 was there - where are your pictures - I have seen some and it is only Monday.. in Omokoroa.
Sorry Roger. I am wading through a backlog of pics that need posting and/or filing, before I post anything from Sunday's meet.
HELP!!!!
As Hampton Downs elected to not publish a programme in January, (why?) I need these single seaters identifying/confirming urgently, as part of my tidying up process. Just the car make please. Thanks.
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John McKechnie
12-31-2019, 12:30 AM
Heres a plug to help you Ray.....
Folks if you want to get your names in a race program,. you must get your entry in by the ct off period.
Currently entries for Taupo Historic Formula F5000 Grand Prix are still open, so do Ray -and the organizers - a favour :........
get your entry in now so he wont have any more urgent identity problems
Happy New Year, с новым годом, bonne année, Frohes neues Jahr, felice anno nuovo, gelukkig nieuwjaar,
blwyddyn Newydd Dda, heri ya mwaka mpya, hyvää uutta vuotta....
Milan Fistonic
12-31-2019, 02:25 AM
HELP!!!!
As Hampton Downs elected to not publish a programme in January, (why?) I need these single seaters identifying/confirming urgently, as part of my tidying up process. Just the car make please. Thanks.
If your ID on the image of 219_0125 refers to January 25 2019 then they did have a programme.
It's not much help though as only three of the cars you've posted are listed.
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I've just noticed there are two 43s on the list so I guess one of them became 143.
Thanks Milan. I was there Friday and no programmes available. Yes, 2 x 43. Dave Silverton ran as 143. Maybe two of those not listed are the ones at the top of the page with no allocated numbers?
The other 43 is a Formula Ford! Wow! That helps a lot... No too bad with local cars as we get to know them, but for festivals, there are often cars we don't often see. No reference to car colour either. Maybe Grant Hannah's car make, pushed the column off! Don't you think that shrinking the columns of driver's first and surnames might have left space for extra info? Just me being petty I suppose, as usual.
Always cracks me up when drivers input into the system and spell their car make incorrectly...
Totally agree with John McKechnie. Given that most local organisers offer a full refund if cancelling more than 24 hours ahead, I fail to see why drivers can't enter early. Every single meeting, there are cars not in the programme - and several late entrants are regulars. A total nightmare for scrutineers, officials, marshals, time keepers, commentators, photographers etc.
Slap them with a $200 late entry fee and donate the proceeds to the volunteers - marshals and unpaid officials.
No excuses.
Happy New Year for tomorrow. I'm chipping away at the filing, but still loads to do.
It is as always, a 'Mix of pics', so just to skip back into a different genre.
A famous British coach that featured in Italy in my favourite film of all time.
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An Italian coach in Britain...
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When transporters were also unique. Goodwood 2000.
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...especially this one, as modelled so successfully by Corgi. Goodwood again, 2009.
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Roger Dowding
12-31-2019, 10:08 PM
" I'm chipping away at the filing, but still loads to do. ".
ERC, know the feeling -mine is a lot of re-filing / re-naming photos, to get into better groups..
To help Ray here a group of your car the 1956 MG Magnette ZA V8 -
photos by John Vevers -
John is a Austin fan and involved with the " Austin 3 Litre " group - the Six cylinder conventional car based on the BMC Austin/Morris 1800 of the late 1960's early 1970's.
These from the last Caffeine and Classics for 2019..
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The story board;
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One of Rays own photos of the car. from a previous Caffeine and Classics. February 2018
Beside it is BMC BOY Ross Cammick 1959 BN7 AH 3000..which he has owned since mid 1970's rebuilt in 1978.
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Aaargh! 'Does my bum look bad in this...'
As you can see, still a load of fibreglass work to do. Paul Madeley made up some cantilever boot hinges so that the boot lid clears that bulge on the top, which has the high stop rear brake light, but also covers the lockable fuel filler, for the purpose built 66 litre stainless steel fuel tank, mounted in the original position just behind the rear seat. This assists in keeping the weight within the wheelbase and contributes to an almost perfect 50/50 weight distribution, especially with fuel in the tank.
I still need a boot prop and if anyone has a Morris Minor type bonnet prop (as fitted to the rear of the Marcos), I'll happily purchase, as gas struts seem to be for a much heavier panel.
In the boot, the spare wheel well was widened for the bigger tyres and the battery and fuel pump(s) are located in separate compartments and a removable bespoke tool box, that contains the jack, wheel brace and an assortment of other essential tools and spares.
I could go on for ever as to what is not original, but purists are entitled to be offended, but restoring a car that was virtually scrap, to original, didn't make any sense at all. Having fun updating it has been in the main interesting, but the costs went through the roof thanks to bad advice and execution. If I'd entrusted it to Andy Culpin or Paul Madeley from the word go, it would have been a lot cheaper and certainly a lot less financially, physically and emotionally painful.
There are a lot of modifications that aren't obvious, such as the front side lights are now flashing indicators and the rear light units have been modified to incorporate the rear flashers. Although the trafficators work (on a separate circuit), there is a repeater side flasher just below.
The bumpers are fibreglass and the front will be extended rearwards for a better look as the original 'hockey sticks' are impossible to source. The rear bumper was split and enlarged to cover the framework for the tow bar and will incorporate the rear parking sensors.
Still so much in the draft/temporary/unfinished stages obviously and I'll totally rebuild the dash again, or most of it...
The final touches will be the fitting of the modified grille, the MG badge and also a nice Motolita wood rimmed steering wheel, which is hanging in the garage all ready.
If you are sufficiently interested in the saga and have about a week to spare:
http://www.monza.org.nz/cars/8monza8/index.htm
Roger Dowding
01-01-2020, 04:20 AM
...Aaargh! 'Does my bum look bad in this...'
ERC, Unfinished yes - does it look good YES, I like it and the work that has gone into it.
Great to read the story, [ your brief version so far - will look at the link showing what you have done with assistance from " By'Gone " Mal Clark, and others..
A couple more photo's - from John Vevers
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One of your own photo's Ray - all adds to what we now have as a story.
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I like modified cars as much as originals, so gets my Vote..
Cheers
Roger
Thanks Roger. Not the only one who has passed favourable comment, but there are those who hate it... notably, people who would have happily seen it go for scrap rather than saving it.
As you can see, still trying to get the bonnet panels to fit better. Every high definition photograph merely emphasises the work still to be done. I could of course have used the original metal bonnet and boot, but why make it easy? I hate bonnets that have the grille attached, which simply act as cranium magnets.
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Oldfart
01-01-2020, 08:14 AM
In keeping with MG Ray, you could go to a mesh grille rather than the "slats"?
Yup. All organised Rhys and basically assembled! Do I leave the mesh stainless or paint it black?
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I still like the purity of the first E Types, with fared in lights. Regardless of the hiccups of any Mark 1 of any make (back named Series 1 in the case of the E Type), on looks alone, I still remember the day it was released and the splash the daily papers made of it. We were gobsmacked.
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Roger Dowding
01-02-2020, 05:28 AM
Indeed Ray,
" I still like the purity of the first E Types, with fared in lights. Regardless of the hiccups of any Mark 1, on looks alone, I still remember the day it was released and the splash the daily papers made of it. We were gobsmacked. "
My late Uncle Eddie Dowding of NSCC fame was at the Geneva Motor Show when it was launched - he got me the Brochure - a Sprial Bound - full colour glossy one - which I still have - there is a great story about getting the car(s) there - they were driven by Norman Dewis and other senior Jaguar staff..
I think they were amazing - re ; the lights - with modern LED type lights, there has been and E-type " Modernised " by Retor fitting the LED's behind the headlight covers - on an E-Type rebuilt of a later model - has the bigger below bumper tail lights - features in the recent NZ Classic Driver ..
My vindictive ex wife managed to 'lose' my collection of brochures, which included those spiral bound Jaguar catalogues, somewhere between the UK house and the shipping container...
Limezed
01-02-2020, 11:14 AM
Hi Ray, it certainly has its share of hiccups. Take her for a run anytime you like.
John McKechnie
01-02-2020, 07:55 PM
[QUOTE=Roger Dowding;71848]Indeed Ray,
" I still like the purity of the first E Types, with fared in lights. Regardless of the hiccups of any Mark 1, on looks alone, I still remember the day it was released and the splash the daily papers made of it. We were gobsmacked. "
Roger, Jaguar saloons were Mark- MK1, MK2. ,E type were Series...3.8, Series 1, Series 1/2, Series 2, Series 3 (V12)
Thanks Limezed. A generous offer.
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December C & C - first test of the Nikon P600
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Two takes on the same underpinnings
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Oldfart
01-03-2020, 09:15 PM
MHC244, the replica of the Macau Spitfire constructed by one of the original builders in Coventry, now living at Albany.
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No excuses for featuring this car more than once.
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I hope these protrusions are either inflatable or fragile.
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Well known Chevrolet
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A massive thank you to the organisers and sponsors of Caffeine & Classics, (Protecta Insurance) as this monthly event is not only totally free, for those displaying or spectating, but it is also free of the restrictions of movement as applied to other shows. Being able to turn up and leave at your leisure should not be underrated, as I am one who is not really keen on having to be 'in position' at 8am then being prevented from leaving until 4pm, or whatever times the organisers apply.
The constant change arounds at C & C inevitable mean that some early arrivals have also left early and late arrivals have been missed. The total informality of the monthly meet is also what makes it so attractive and whilst Tony will grab a regular spot for the Minis, cars aren't crammed together by make or model, so seeing immaculate exotica or unique cars parked next to a scruffy rat rod or truck just adds to the attraction. Catching up and chatting with so many friends and acquaintances from the motorsport is also a regular bonus.
Let's hope that the Auckland Council's plans to build on the Takapuna ANZAC street car park don't see the still fairly popular Sunday market, shifted to Smales Farm and Caffeine and Classics made homeless, as I suspect more people now visit C & C than the market which isn't quite as popular as it once was.
Flashback to early 1983
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2014
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Is the ramp for grandma or the dog?
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Re #3125. Formula Fords. Thanks to Milan's programme scan for January, and a fair bit of time Googling, I have now identified all 4 cars.
Still a hefty pile of ex slide and negative scans to ID more for accurate dates than subject matter.
Thanks to all those who have filled in a load of gaps, especially Milan. You have no idea just how much I appreciate your assistance.
I have slimmed the library down a bit by deleting obvious near duplicates from a meeting or where the focus was less than really good, but the older pics particularly, slides and negatives, we are lumbered with a few dodgy ones.
Just a random dip into the pile of British sports-racing cars
1966 - Crossle
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1970 - Coldwell GT
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1970- Astra
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2010 - Richard Dodkins, who was sprinting a Ginetta G12 when I started sprinting, brought this fearsome 8.1 litre March to NZ for the McLaren Festival.
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Will we ever see a meeting with so many imported iconic cars ever again? Nostalgia should be reserved for several decades ago, not just 1!
October 1985
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Paul Leuch
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Tallin, Estonia 2017!
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1969 - Thruxton
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1975 Mallory Park - Davrian
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1979 - Oulton Park. Imp powered Austin - using a Lotus Elan chassis as I recall.
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2010
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2011
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Roger Dowding
01-06-2020, 01:39 AM
ERC - have " Borrowed " the Bucklers Puke October '85 - shows the now Bart Jonkers car the Green/Yellow stripes behind the " Blue Brick " the Jonkers car now in Europe the Blue Brick is still in NZ I believe, " Oldfart " may know more
Oldfart
01-06-2020, 09:31 AM
#59 in post 3151 is Brian Ax, has owned the car for decades. The Landcrab London to Sydney car, now owned by a lovely guy I have spent time with here in the UK. It's amazing how near to standard it is, especially so much of the interior, wooden door caps, and much soft trim, except the seats. As he said, if you are going to go as far as they did, you need to have some level of comfort.
Post 3152, the Blue Brick is with NZ Buckler guru Kelvin Brown in ChCh.
More for Roger...
Prescott Hillclimb 1971
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No explanation required here... 1985
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Somewhat annoyed to find that I missed this race group on track in 2018 - twice... I was busy in the paddock with the Ricketts and ERA GP1. I'll make sure that this year, I will catch all groups.
Just booked my flights - but I wish I'd paid back in September. Would have saved me a fair bit of cash. The Air NZ sale doesn't include the LAX/LHR legs - nor the dates I wanted to travel. I was offered a cheaper flight via Singapore, but on my list is another visit to the Petersen Museum in Hollywood - and a cellar/vault tour, even though photographs aren't allowed in there.
Whilst in the UK, I'll be making a return visit to the Caister Castle museum, now that they have allowed photography.
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Not sure if anyone watches the 'Father Brown' series on TV, but more often than not, there is a decent classic car or two and the one we watched the other night, had a mint Austin Healey 100 with louvred bonnet featured.
There was a time when paddock access at any F1 GP wasn't restricted to the elite and everything hidden from the view of the public. This was 1973 at Silverstone. Probably when the late Geoff Manning was part of the team.
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...then your hero appears!
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Oulton Park 1975. When I arrive in the UK, this year, it is Oulton Park Gold Cup weekend and I was very tempted to head up there on the Monday, but as it is Bank Holiday weekend, I have decided that travelling there and back in the one day wouldn't be a good idea, especially given my advanced decrepitude.
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There won't be a visit to the Donington Museum either, now it has been emptied. Shame.
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2010 and no prizes for identifying the icon on the left.
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Roger Dowding
01-07-2020, 04:09 AM
" No explanation required here... 1985 " Post #3154 - " The Healey and TR ",
Healey would be Frank Karl, and the TR is Chris Watson in his TR5. remember when Chris had the Garage on Glenfield Road, now a" Z " station, and later workshops in Wairau Valley.
ERC Thanks for those photos " borrowed "of course - but I did find you those John Vever's ones of your car - part payment - perhaps !!
2012
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2016
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2018 - Brasier
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1966 Racing Car Show. Used to travel down by train for this, staying at Baden-Powell House in Kensington.
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2016
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2017 - Hope to revisit the Petersen Museum September.
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2018
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1979 - Richard Dodkins again
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1980
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2000
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2004
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Apologies if any of these have been seen before, but in the early days of posting, I didn't keep a check on what I had uploaded. Now I do!
1966 RCS - my favourite of all the Mini based cars. Unipower GT.
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1970 - I may well have posted this before. "Spotty Smith's" TVR.
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1980 Curborough. There is a double NZ connection here. Arthur Nash told me that he was distantly related to NZ's Walter Nash. Arthur built the 1300cc Mini engine that I brought to NZ that ended up in Mike Lucas's Mini. I never got the chance to run the engine at anything other than running in levels, but when Arthur rebuilt my class winning engine, (that I had bought second-hand), it had broken rings and other issues. Amazed that I had done so well with it, including the first sub 40 second run in that hotly contested up to 1300cc road modified class at Curborough.
By the time it made it into Mike's car, virtually unused, the core plugs had rusted through... Sorry Mike.
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1980 - Warwick, not Peerless...
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2004
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2009 The only Elva Courier GT I have ever seen. Quite a nice looking car too. Good to see it being exercised on track and not just locked away in a private collection.
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The Courier used to be very successful in sports car racing in the days when Dad took us to Mallory Park! Chris Meek was the number 1 regular driver.
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This car is well known but possibly a 1936 photograph and the only one I have seen with it carrying lights. I'm guessing at Donington.
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1970 - Riley
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1984 - Ralt
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2009 - HWM
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1975 - Mallory park - Skoda
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1979 - Donington - Skoda - Mick Hill, local hero!
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1980 - Cadwell Park - Skoda
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One for Ken. 2012 Monaco - Trojan
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2012 - Riley
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2012 - Surtees
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2013 - another Doretti…
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1970
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1971
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2013
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1980 - Elva
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2005 Rally New Zealand
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2005 - Domain Hillclimb - another great event lost, when the Auckland Council decided that a $5,000 fee was appropriate. No wonder we wallow in nostalgia.
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2007
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1977 - Mick Hill again
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1985 - when crowds were still huge...
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2002 - Don't expect me to spell it again...
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2004 - I can spell SAAB
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2004 - Festival of Speed
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2009 - and this is just the pre 1966 car park... Goodwood Revival
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2012 - Monaco of course
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2014
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Once again, apologies if any of these have been shown before I kept a record.
1970
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1974. This Mini at Curborough is driven by someone normally better known for being behind the camera. John Colley's work has often been featured as studio shots in the better quality UK Classic Car magazines.
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I arrived in NZ January 1983 so this would have been one of my very first race meetings, as it wasn't long before I was part of a flag marshalling team, through the NSCC. (That is Northern Sports Car Club, not the Nottingham Sports Car Club of course.) I have this down as February 6th. I arrived in NZ January 17th, so this was probably my first time at a track I'd avidly read about in the UK motoring Press, during the Tasman series era, 20 years earlier.
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The crowd were often on their feet as Tony Rutherford gave it the beans, but he claims that in this shot, a shock absorber had just failed. It was obvious from the crowd reaction, that the Rotary engine was very popular here.
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Milan Fistonic
01-19-2020, 08:57 AM
I arrived in NZ January 1983 so this would have been one of my very first race meetings, as it wasn't long before I was part of a flag marshalling team, through the NSCC. (That is Northern Sports Car Club, not the Nottingham Sports Car Club of course.) I have this down as February 6th. I arrived in NZ January 17th, so this was probably my first time at a track I'd avidly read about in the UK motoring Press, during the Tasman series era, 20 years earlier.
That was an Auckland Car Club, Club Circuit meeting. I don't have a programme for that event but I can give you the results of the races held that day if that's any use.
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Thanks Milan. I don't need the results.
Read the above though. "Entries $8 and late entries $16.00". First point is that late entries carried a 100% penalty, (totally agree with that) and secondly, an entry fee back then, albeit on the club circuit, was 1.6% of my then weekly salary, senior management, of $26,000 a year.
From memory, 2 years later, on the full Pukekohe track, I think I paid $25 for my first ever race.
Not sure what the entry fee is for next weekend at Hampton Downs, but I'm pretty sure it is somewhat higher than 1.6% of a weekly salary, or even 5%.
1985 - For spgeti?
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2009 - I may have posted this before
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2012 - Monaco
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Again, not sure if this has been posted before. Ferrari time.
1965, Shelsey Walsh Hillclimb. Sievwright's Ferrari. Pic taken on an ancient 30 year old bellows camera - and 20 year old film! Dad was using the 35mm Leica but possibly due to his pre war restrictions of glass plates, didn't seem to take many - and I can't find them anyway.
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1970 - Prescott
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1977 Silverstone Grand prix
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2002 FoS
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2002
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2012
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2014 Haynes Museum
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National Museum, Beaulieu
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Spgeti
01-22-2020, 08:42 AM
Not my Elf Ray but it’s a Mk3.
The Mini Sprint is awesome.
John McKechnie
01-22-2020, 07:54 PM
2014 pic...nice black Chaika, make great tow car
2014 pic...nice black Chaika, make great tow car
Someone posted elsewhere that 'the GAZ Chaika was the most beautiful Russian car ever made'.
As they were the preferred transport of the KGB and high ranking Russian officials, one wonders if he really thought that...
A few more Mini variants - and they are varied!
At Goodwood 2009 they celebrated 50 years of Mini. The famous Outspan Orange - purely a promo vehicle.
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Dizzy Addicott's DART doesn't look too bad from this angle, but the silhouette wasn't exactly a thing of beauty.
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Ogle mini - one of the better attempts to make the Mini attractive.
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Mini Jem (as in Jem Marsh of Marcos fame) and Bernie's Broadspeed replica. I believe that the story goes that when the CoD system came in, they wouldn't accept his Minisprint, (as raced previously) so I believe he got hold of a Broadspeed replica, rear body mould from Australia and made a superb job of this car. The 'chopped' and deseamed body shell made a huge difference to the aerodynamics and we clocked Bernie at 130mph at Pukekohe on police radar...
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John McKechnie
01-22-2020, 10:59 PM
Someone posted elsewhere that 'the GAZ Chaika was the most beautiful Russian car ever made'.
As they were the preferred transport of the KGB and high ranking Russian officials, one wonders if he really thought that...
ahhhh, someone else with similar taste, excellent. Based on the Packard, but not quite identical .
Not surprising that Americans and Russians ..and some Kiwis...have similar tastes in exquisite upmarket cars
Continuing the Mini theme
1967 - Probably Reg Philips, Shelsey.
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1969 - Trengwainton Hillclimb, Cornwall.
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1985 - Kevin Andrews flagging.
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I wonder who this young chap is, back in 2009...
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Also 2009 - one of the 'Heinz 57', Wolseley Hornet convertibles which were given away in a nationwide competition in 1966. Not the best of images as I only had 3/4 day at Goodwood and just the trusty pocket camera.
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MG Metro time...
1983
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1999 I bought this well used MG Metro from MGCC's Geoff Broadhead, who was the second owner. The first owner I discovered was one of our regular badminton players!
I bought this with 250,000kms on the clock - and the head had never been off! Several exhaust down pipes had been fitted over the years but after I had a flexible section welded in, no more problems. Geoff had taught both his daughters to drive in the car and it was later used to carry hay bales around but from what I can gather, only ever had one clutch replacement.
Marcos still being repaired after an incident at Whenuapai that I got caught up in. Ruined the immaculate post restoration of the car - just the first time it would get caught up in someone else's problems...
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2006
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Peter M
01-25-2020, 09:29 AM
Tony Teesdale a 3 time NZ Championship driver won the 1987 in this Metro, also he competed in the 1986 RAC Rally before shipping it to NZ.
Milan Fistonic
01-25-2020, 10:59 AM
Tony Teesdale a 3 time NZ Championship driver won the 1987 in this Metro, also he competed in the 1986 RAC Rally before shipping it to NZ.
I don't think that's Teesdale's car. It's the car Peter Johnson had.
This is the caption to a photo of that car in 2012.
It even included a static rally car show that was open to the public. While I was killing some time one morning I headed inside to check out some of historical machines that were on display. It’s hard to believe now, but this MG Metro 6R4 International-spec Group B machine was a real wreck when it arrived in New Zealand years ago…
Oldfart
01-25-2020, 02:58 PM
Tony Teesdale a 3 time NZ Championship driver won the 1987 in this Metro, also he competed in the 1986 RAC Rally before shipping it to NZ.
Which of the 6R4 cars shown (3 of them) are you referring to?
Peter M
01-26-2020, 08:32 AM
Tony Teesdale had Repco and Engine Rebuilders support in NZ, also when he did the 86 RAC Repco and Engine Rebuilders supporting him. The bottom 2 cars were Peter Johnsons
Oldfart
01-26-2020, 08:17 PM
Tony Teesdale had Repco and Engine Rebuilders support in NZ, also when he did the 86 RAC Repco and Engine Rebuilders supporting him. The bottom 2 cars were Peter Johnsons
I think you will find the Unipart car is not PJ's. I reckon I know who owns it.
Again, apologies if any of these have been posted before.
More MGs...
Prescott 1971. This may have been an original alloy bodied Sebring MGC
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Cadwell 1980
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Pukekohe 1983 - but not too sure of the date. It seems that the club track was used clockwise and anti clockwise - which is like having two tracks for the price of one!
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Chelsea 1993
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Sunday's meeting at HD was fairly low key. Tried the new camera, but although I'm still learning to drive it, I suspect that it is better confined to static shots in good light. Seemed a bit slow writing the image to the card. The long lens might be useful but the image quality isn't as good as the DSLRs.
Chris Watson - 1978 BMW Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe. Nice looking car.
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Andrew Metford
01-27-2020, 12:54 PM
Chris Watson - 1978 BMW Alpina B7 Turbo Coupe. Nice looking car.
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Nice looking, and very rare car, but those mirrors:confused: Need to put the proper mirrors back on it.
Sad to get a message today from the MGCC, that Morrinsville MG stalwart Andy Lowe passed away at the weekend.
Andy drove an MG BV8 with great gusto on track or metal and in recent years had assisted with the sponsorship on an annual MGCC track day. A very popular guy and will be much missed. RiP.
Manfeild 1990
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Puhoi 1990
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Another MGCC hillclimb 1992. Somewhere around the Red Fox Tavern
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Funeral on Thursday, (30 January 2020).
A service for Andy to celebrate his life will be held at Knox Presbyterian Church, corner Canada Street and Anderson Street Morrinsville, at 10:30am. The family have requested attendee's wear "colour" in celebration of Andy's life.
February 2005 - Phil Foulkes - before the rains really came down... Would like to go to that track again sometime. A well organised meeting too.
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Dennis Williams (who taught brother Rrrray to drive) has this very rare Maestro Turbo. Ellerslie 2006
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2010 Bryce Gliddon
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2012 Sydney. Stunning MG Q type restoration in a home workshop.
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Double dose today as we are away tomorrow to Dunedin for the masters game. Thankfully I'm not competing as my shoulder is stuffed!
2012 Parnell MG at Monaco, on the McLaren Trust organised trip...
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where we met this wonderful lady and shared many laughs. 2013 Hampton Downs.
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2014 Aston Martin Owners Club meeting at Donington. I conned my through one of the hospitality suites and took shots from their balcony.
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I squeezed through the invasive fencing to get this and other shots - but it poured with rain... I went home lunchtime.
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Sunday at Hampton Downs.
Mellow yellows
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Apparently James Watson had 3 wins. Previous race experience? 2KCup...
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The Nikon P900 is excellent for this sort of shot.
More Morgans
1975
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2005
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2009
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2015
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2000
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2018 - At the Morgan factory
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Goodwood - note the numberplate, compared to the pic in #3194.
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According to Derek Bell, he was more excited to be driving the Eagle V12 at Goodwood, 2018, even though only a demo, than almost any other car he has ever driven. The car was driven on the second day by Sir Jackie Stewart. In many eyes, the nicest looking 3 litre F1 car of all time.
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2020
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2012 - Riley
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2018 Goodwood car park. By the end of the day, the field is just about full of pre 1966 cars.
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2018
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2020
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2000 - Scarab. Like the Eagle, beautifully presented in period.
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2009 - Matich
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2012 - Scirocco
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Tec Mec
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2013 - Matich
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Roger Dowding
02-07-2020, 06:06 AM
That Scarab, Reventlow was too late with a Front - engined GP car, sadly. It is a good looking Racer.. Thanks Ray
Aussie time...
1983 - Pukekohe
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1985
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1985
I wonder who was daft enough to race an Allegro Equipe...
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1989 - I think. Date could be wrong
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2004
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2005
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Leadfoot Sunday morning
Gary Rush
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I didnt see Greg Murphy running this today
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Nice to see the sports Scarab painted in the same livery as the old front engined F1 cars.
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Roger Dowding
02-10-2020, 08:31 AM
Love the A90 Ray, same as the one I owned & raced.
Kevin H , me too - have stolen / " borrowed " - ERC - Ray/s photos of A90-95-105 .. for the AH story - a Healey Saloon -of course..
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Not really of much interest to me as a vehicle, but anything showing a bit of attitude is worth a pic.
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On this run, Paul seemed to have some gear selection hiccups as he passed, so was a second or so slower than the previous day. A better vantage spot than last year as the straw bales were a bit lower, but you still only get a split second or two to get a snap.
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Keith wasn't feeling the best so handed this over to Racing Ray Williams, who also had some gear selection problems I believe.
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Mark Webber's first run in Earl Bamber's Porsche
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rogered1
02-11-2020, 10:06 PM
1989 - I think. Date could be wrong
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2004
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2005
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Jennifer Mossman in the pink , white commodore, ill ask her the date of the picture, but she is out preparing my lunch at the moment. ( Still playing with sports sedans)
The hanging tree to the right... probably for anyone caught smoking on site, yet right behind me, in the camper van area, someone was smoking an illicit substance.
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Four wheels on the ground for this very well known Abarth. Bestknown for that amazing Targa picture of it on two wheels
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Replica McLaren
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Bevan counts the wheels on the Almac Cobra - or maybe enjoying the exhaust note...
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Extra post or two this week as I am away next week. Going back a bit.
2005 - Cutten Special
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2007
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2011
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2015
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Roger Dowding
02-13-2020, 08:35 AM
" Nice to see the sports Scarab painted in the same livery as the old front engined F1 cars. "
Thanks for the photo - you had one of the Grand Prix Car a while ago.
Cheers
Well, the title is a 'Mix of Pics'. Can't get much more of a mix than Leadfoot.
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Hayden Paddon was really throwing this machine about - a Semog
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Away tomorrow for 7 days on the Sea Princess. Queensland only. If no pics posted in ten days, assume we are confined to a balcony cabin, but with 24/7 room service...
Back - not confined to our cruise ship cabin...
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I think this young marshal had heard about 'Racing' Ray's attraction to the Leadfoot scenery, so was ready with his camera.
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Must have been disappointed...
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From Germany
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GB
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Italy
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France
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Not sure about this car. Is this the Mallock 31 replica?
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I do know this is a Radical...
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Not one of the BRMs I know and love, but Mr Fitch is certainly impressive with this BRM
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Not many single seater's this year.
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Escort - powered by MAZDA
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Trevor Sheffield
03-04-2020, 12:36 AM
[QUOTE=ERC;72308]
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The hockey stick as shown in the photo, does not guarantee an accurate recorded time and deciding a winner and depends on the starter placing it uniformly in front of the wheel for each competitor. The first inch or two travel takes longer than one would expect. Some 65 years ago, I built communication and timing equipment for the Northern Sports Car club and took this factor into account.
Brings back memories of the task task of setting things up at every speed event and in particular a specific hillclimb at Ostrich Farm Road.
At a pre-event committee meeting, we decided that this time there would be no delay in getting things started. We set up everything the night before, and for good measure I slept overnight in the club caravan. On waking early in the morning, from within the caravan, I checked the cable which we had run down the hill, and was horrified to find an open, as well as a short circuit. I learned that sheep love plastic and a short length run inside a fence had provided breakfast. LOL, but not at the time!
LOL. Re hockey sticks. That is why the UK system using a beam, was that they would only time to 0.1 unless you had a 'beam breaker' fitted and timing was then to .001. The hockey stick was usually replaced by a chock to stop the car rolling forwards or backwards.
Incidentally, I used to get so frustrated in NZ, waiting around whilst cables were laid, and the limitations of one car on a long hill at a time, that I scrapped the cable system altogether for a series of sprints at Pukekohe and also at the Otaua Hill Climb back in about 1990/91.
Pukekohe - Sprint 1. Open radio at the start. "Car 22, Mini - 3 - 2- 1 go". At the finish line, two or three watches. Car number 23 despatched as soon as 22 was 15 seconds up the road - or past a marshal point.
Three cars on the course at a time, then once past the finish line, joined the queue for the next section, Sprint 2, in other words, two sprints running at the same time. Then the same two tracks run in reverse in the afternoon, giving 4 tracks in a day.
Sure, not as accurate as electronic timing but good enough to get through over 600 runs by 3pm at Pukekohe or six runs per competitor by 3pm at Otaua. For a 'fun' event, more than good enough.
Roger Dowding
03-04-2020, 05:44 AM
[QUOTE=ERC;72308]
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The hockey stick as shown in the photo, does not guarantee an accurate recorded time and deciding a winner and depends on the starter placing it uniformly in front of the wheel for each competitor. The first inch or two travel takes longer than one would expect. Some 65 years ago, I built communication and timing equipment for the Northern Sports Car club and took this factor into account.
Brings back memories of the task task of setting things up at every speed event and in particular a specific hillclimb at Ostrich Farm Road.
At a pre-event committee meeting, we decided that this time there would be no delay in getting things started. We set up everything the night before, and for good measure I slept overnight in the club caravan. On waking early in the morning, from within the caravan, I checked the cable which we had run down the hill, and was horrified to find an open, as well as a short circuit. I learned that sheep love plastic and a short length run inside a fence had provided breakfast. LOL, but not at the time!
Trevor, " The Hockey Stick "- story - would like to put that on the Northern Sports Car Club thread - would also like to know a bit more about the NSCC Hill Climbs.
I knew or have learnt a bit about the Clubs Roads - and to put them in order
Ostrich Farm Road
Birdwood Road
Wharepapa Road
later Cosseys Farm - 1967 on - when I had just joined the Club
Birdwood and Wharepapa have got information from Bob Homewood, supported by others.
Would enjoy you relaying any more stories and details.
Cheers
Roger:cool:
Trevor Sheffield
03-04-2020, 10:45 PM
LOL. Re hockey sticks. That is why the UK system using a beam, was that they would only time to 0.1 unless you had a 'beam breaker' fitted and timing was then to .001. The hockey stick was usually replaced by a chock to stop the car rolling forwards or backwards.
Incidentally, I used to get so frustrated in NZ, waiting around whilst cables were laid, and the limitations of one car on a long hill at a time, that I scrapped the cable system altogether for a series of sprints at Pukekohe and also at the Otaua Hill Climb back in about 1990/91.
Pukekohe - Sprint 1. Open radio at the start. "Car 22, Mini - 3 - 2- 1 go". At the finish line, two or three watches. Car number 23 despatched as soon as 22 was 15 seconds up the road - or past a marshal point.
Three cars on the course at a time, then once past the finish line, joined the queue for the next section, Sprint 2, in other words, two sprints running at the same time. Then the same two tracks run in reverse in the afternoon, giving 4 tracks in a day.
Sure, not as accurate as electronic timing but good enough to get through over 600 runs by 3pm at Pukekohe or six runs per competitor by 3pm at Otaua. For a 'fun' event, more than good enough.
I can not agree that a beam at the start results in accuracy. The recording device can be accurate to many decimal points but this has no bearing on the issue. A beam set up is likely to result in an even longer run up and is also affected by the frontal aspect of each car of very real consideration at the start, but not at the fish due to the road-speed factor. The hockey stick involving the operation of a simple contact is superior in every respect and can be arranged to operate almost instantly the car moves.
My system was quite sophisticated in that the two stopwatch operating solenoids were operated by capacitor discharge, as a means of guarding against even the very slight possibility of contact bounce ,given that a micro switch was employed.
Subsequent to building the NSSC gear I established my own Company building electric/electronic industrial control systems and had secured the NZ agency for Hird Brown Ltd, UK manufactures of motor sports timing gear, I was not impressed and am well aware of what is used overseas.
Simplicity is the key, particularly in respect of club events. I can not see how that used any the Vintage Car Club at their Chelsea hill climb can be bettered from every practical point of view. A CB handy-talkies at the start and finish, enabling a flag drop and a loud shout "go", to be monitored by a reliable time keeper starting a stopwatch to be stopped as the car crosses the finish line. This simple arrangement surely provides truly competitive sport. I gather that you describe a similar system.
Unfortunately in my day, CB radio or model control frequencies were not available and we we were stuck with the substantial nuisance of running out coppers wire. Ham bands were considered but ruled out as not being practical due to overriding interference. Digetally coded signals would have been a pipe dream LOL.
Trevor Sheffield
03-04-2020, 10:55 PM
[QUOTE=Trevor Sheffield;72314]
Trevor, " The Hockey Stick "- story - would like to put that on the Northern Sports Car Club thread - would also like to know a bit more about the NSCC Hill Climbs.
I knew or have learnt a bit about the Clubs Roads - and to put them in order
Ostrich Farm Road
Birdwood Road
Wharepapa Road
later Cosseys Farm - 1967 on - when I had just joined the Club
Birdwood and Wharepapa have got information from Bob Homewood, supported by others.
Would enjoy you relaying any more stories and details.
Cheers
Roger:cool:
Roger, as a result of your comments, you have encouraged me to think about a thread to be titled, "Bits and pieces from days gone by", so watch this space. LOL
The British Hillclimb and Sprint championships have use the beam breaker for years. The cars have to have a 'beam breaker' plate at the front and this is lined up at the start line by lights. Good enough I would have thought. As I posted earlier, if you competed without the front plate, timing was only to 0.1 seconds.
I'm guessing it came in at the beginning of the 1971 season based on these two pics, both taken at Prescott.
1970
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1971
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Trevor Sheffield
03-05-2020, 10:02 AM
The British Hillclimb and Sprint championships have use the beam breaker for years. The cars have to have a 'beam breaker' plate at the front and this is lined up at the start line by lights. Good enough I would have thought. As I posted earlier, if you competed without the front plate, timing was only to 0.1 seconds.
I'm guessing it came in at the beginning of the 1971 season based on these two pics, both taken at Prescott.
1970
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1971
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It would appear that the system's obvious limitations were overcome by including complications which can not be popular with competitors. The restricted width of what amounts to a starting gated is noted and I would judge a necessity.
A very significant disadvantage is that it requires accurate positioning of the vehicle rather than the starting device, which can cause frustration and delay.
I would be interested to learn as to how this costly and complicated set up is superior to the simple, coast effective and accurate hockey stick system, which is portable and can be used at any venue regardless. Just how is this beam system, which requires an addition to competing cars, more accurate in respect of electrically recording the start from standstill ?
Oldfart
03-05-2020, 09:55 PM
Trevor, I put a beam breaker on the Buckler for under £2, yes two quid just a year or so back, and removed if needs be in about 2 minutes. I have yet to see anybody object, and the system is about as big as a suitcase to move around, wireless now too.
The point is Trevor is that putting the hockey stick under the wheel means the distance from the front of the car is variable. The cars using a beam breaker are all lined up with the breaker at the very front of the car and the finish line beam is also broken by that same device, so all cars are equal in terms of distance travelled.
The system has, as I said, been in place for 50 years and if there was anything more accurate, don't you think they'd be using it, given these are championship events?
We now have transponders in race cars but their position within the car's structure is never checked, so in the event of a dead heat, a transponder timed dead heat is reliant on the location of the unit - but savvy timekeepers or CoC's can look at a video of the race finish if required.
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Another dig into the archives... Apologies if any have been shown before.
1972 Curborough
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1987 Donington
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2004 Donington
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2004 - Pukekohe - Reynard
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Trevor Sheffield
03-09-2020, 03:57 AM
[QUOTE=ERC;72339]The point is Trevor is that putting the hockey stick under the wheel means the distance from the front of the car is variable. The cars using a beam breaker are all lined up with the breaker at the very front of the car and the finish line beam is also broken by that same device, so all cars are equal in terms of distance travelled.
The system has, as I said, been in place for 50 years and if there was anything more accurate, don't you think they'd be using it, given these are championship events?
Correctly used the front of the car is lined up with the start line while the contact making device is placed under a wheel, front or rear.
Having gained formal tenders for extensive industrial control systems and industrial alarm panels, on the basis of technical merit as well as cost, against long standing overseas manufacturers, I believe that a Kiwi has the knowledge and experience to correctly consider all off the detail involved.
Both systems can be equally accurate dependent on the human factor, but the direct contact system wins on the basis of operator understandable simplicity of use and set-up; adaptable to any venue without extra facilities; absolute portability; a power source is not required and certainly not on on both sides of the road; simple and understandable maintenance. The advantage in respect of cost is obvious.
All without reliance on the each competitor having to cater fo the shortcomings of the device. In my book this single aspect renders the light-beam design, not fit for purpose.
Your opinion Trevor, but the system is simple, as you roll up and the light shows that the car is correctly positioned.
It takes no time at all and bear in mind, the car isn't going to set off until the car ahead is clear anyway.
No guesswork as to where the front of the car might be. A hockey stick and guesswork and bearing in mind the nose shape of a car such as an E type Jaguar as opposed to an Austin A40, means that if accelerating out of the last bend as at Loton Park for example, the nose lifts and goodness knows what part of the car would break the beam.
As I said, I'm sure that if there was a better and more accurate system than that used by the UK Championships, they'd use it.
Subject closed. Back to photos...
2012 - Surtees (Monaco)
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Token
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2017 - Trojan
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2018 - Williams
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2018 - I wonder when we'll see the likes of the Donington exhibits again? I'll possibly do the Silverstone Experience in September if I can squeeze it in. Also a return to the Caistor Castle museum is pencilled in for September 8th, now they allow photographs.
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Last of the Leadfoot pics, just to clear my 'to be filed folder' from the event
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1970 - Prescott
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2004 - Goodwood
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2012 - Modus
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McLaren & MARCH
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2014 - McLaren - National Motor Museum Beaulieu
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2018 - MARCH - Final visit to the Donington Museum
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2004
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2012 - Tec Mec
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Techno
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Theodore
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Kevin Hirst
03-16-2020, 08:11 PM
2004
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2012 - Tec Mec
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Techno
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Theodore
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Ray, I always thought the Tec Mec was a 250f with Chev v8 power, would love to know what else powered them
Allan
03-16-2020, 09:59 PM
From what I can gather Kevin, left over 250F 2.5 litre engines. It was for sale at Bonhams with the original engine not fitted but as part of the deal, but the one fitted had to be bought as a separate deal. Only raced in one GP 1959 US GP (DNF) but apparently now is really well sorted and wins occasional historic races. Someone may like to confirm this but I believe this is the only one built and may also tell us what the story on it's NZ adventure was.
As above. All I know is that I first saw it in the Donington Collection, right from when it opened. In recent years, saw it in action at Monaco 2012 and also at the Goodwood Revival, so it must have been sold from the collection some time ago, unless it was on loan.
Totally agree with Allan in that it seems very well sorted these days.
From my copy of the book 'Great Racing Cars of the Donington Collection', by Doug Nye with Geoffrey Goddard (signed by Doug & Tom Wheatcroft, on my birthday 1976...).
The car was designed by Valerio Colotti who had the drawings when Maserati packed up racing in 1958. An engine and gearbox from an early 250F were fitted.
After the US GP it raced once at Daytona and then languished in a Florida garden (honestly!) until the late 1960's when it was rescued by Tom Wheatcroft. He had it restored and apparently it did take part in historic events.
Love one offs and less well known cars in any category. For years, F1 was open to privateers and many GP's featured local drivers in cars that sometimes were competitive and sometimes weren't.
The modern age of F1 limited to cars that look, sound and perform the same, has very little interest to those of us lucky enough to have some experience of F1 almost from when it started in 1950, certainly, we are lucky to have been able to experience those cars on track. Looking forward to the Revival (Covid19 not withstanding...) and really hoping that Duncan Ricketts has the Parnell there.
Kevin Hirst
03-17-2020, 08:34 AM
As above. All I know is that I first saw it in the Donington Collection, right from when it opened. In recent years, saw it in action at Monaco 2012 and also at the Goodwood Revival, so it must have been sold from the collection some time ago, unless it was on loan.
Totally agree with Allan in that it seems very well sorted these days.
From my copy of the book 'Great Racing Cars of the Donington Collection', by Doug Nye with Geoffrey Goddard (signed by Doug & Tom Wheatcroft, on my birthday 1976...).
The car was designed by Valerio Colotti who had the drawings when Maserati packed up racing in 1958. An engine and gearbox from an early 250F were fitted.
After the US GP it raced once at Daytona and then languished in a Florida garden (honestly!) until the late 1960's when it was rescued by Tom Wheatcroft. He had it restored and apparently it did take part in historic events.
Love one offs and less well known cars in any category. For years, F1 was open to privateers and many GP's featured local drivers in cars that sometimes were competitive and sometimes weren't.
The modern age of F1 limited to cars that look, sound and perform the same, has very little interest to those of us lucky enough to have some experience of F1 almost from when it started in 1950, certainly, we are lucky to have been able to experience those cars on track. Looking forward to the Revival (Covid19 not withstanding...) and really hoping that Duncan Ricketts has the Parnell there.
The one I remember had a 327 fuel injected chev, Johny Mansel comes to mind, I remember it looking rather beat up at the time, was there more than one Tec Mec. or repowered in later life.
Kevin Hirst
03-17-2020, 08:33 PM
The one I remember had a 327 fuel injected chev, Johny Mansel comes to mind, I remember it looking rather beat up at the time, was there more than one Tec Mec. or repowered in later life.
1961 Renwick 50 Rod Coppins Tec Mec4650cc
Allan
03-18-2020, 12:26 AM
327 cu in is 5359cc whereas 4650cc would be 283 cu in.
327 cu in is 5359cc whereas 4650cc would be 283 cu in.
hard to tell the difference from the outside.
Kevin Hirst
03-18-2020, 07:24 AM
hard to tell the difference from the outside.
Yes , correct, must have had motor change, the one that I remember had the famous fuelie injection system that came out in corvette's which I believe was only fitted to the 327 motor, including fuelie head's but open to any input from those that will know the car better than I remember it.
So did they build more than one or did it come to NZ, then back to the USA? No mention in the Donington book about the engine that was with the car.
2012 - Scirrocco
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Gordini
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Lancia
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2016 - OSCA
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Allan
03-18-2020, 10:47 PM
The Bonham's auction I refer to was held in 2003 I believe. The description of the car makes no mention of any New Zealand connection. The auction description has a "Salesroom Note" attached which mentions the engines. Try bonhams.com/auctions/10228/lot/551/
Kevin Hirst
03-18-2020, 11:18 PM
Yes , correct, must have had motor change, the one that I remember had the famous fuelie injection system that came out in corvette's which I believe was only fitted to the 327 motor, including fuelie head's but open to any input from those that will know the car better than I remember it.
In Eoin Young's book classic racers there is a photo ofJohny Mansel in the Tec Mec chasing a Cooper, car has exhaust pipes coming out both sides of engine cover.
Interesting that in the Bonham's blurb, there is no mention whatever of the car coming to NZ or of a second car. It was stated as 'unique' and no mention of being fitted with a Chev engine either.
Was this a local Maserati 250F converted and the name copied? Was it fitted with disc or drum brakes?
I wasn't around in NZ then but maybe there is more detail lurking somewhere in a local magazine article? The Bonham's blurb has to be accurate otherwise they'd have the same sort of legal issues that surrounded Lord Brocket.
The one I photographed must have been released from the Donington Collection by Tom Wheatcroft and not part of the decimation that followed his passing.
khyndart in CA
03-19-2020, 07:57 AM
I found this comment from Paul Jaray;
" Rod Coppins' TecMec Maserati.
Originally raced in single seater form by Johnny Mansel, it was a 250F, (#2504), that received a Corvette engine. It later was bought by Rod Coppins.
"Coppins could see no future in trying to tame the wild TecMec to race against the rear-engined Coopers in single-seater racing so he converted it to a sportsracing car by the simple expedient of buying the central-seat Ferrari sports car body which had been imported in 1956 by Ron Roycroft, on the 4½-litre V12 Ferrari bought from Louis Rosier. Roycroft had raced the car in this form a few times before converting the Ferrari back to its original singleseater form."
What became of the car after this tragic event. March 20th 1963 at Pukekohe ?
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From the G. Vercoe Golden Age book.
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