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Roger Dowding
07-22-2020, 02:37 AM
Thanks Ray - our only Rover was - snap - a 1995 Rover 216i Cabriolet owned from 1997 to around 2004 - we were going to sell in 2000 as had just bought a BMW 318 Compact, but our son came home from Australia and needed wheels so rather than buy and sell we hung on to it - he later took over UN7284 in 2004 the Green MX5 purchased in 1996 which we still have.
Should be at Caffeine and Classics again but the August meeting - fits in with another trip to Auckland
and now 3500 + posts !!
August C & C clashes with an MGCC track day at Pukekohe. Not sure yet which I'll go to.
Well, it didn't crash at 1,000,000...
S - British road
Singer Coupe - as it should look! Fremantle 1993. The owner also owns a Marcos Volvo, Riley Kestrel and several other interesting cars.
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Simplex
67063
Sinclair
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Speedex - forerunner to Marcos
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S - non-British
Sadler
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Saker
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Scarab
67068
Skoda
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Subaru
67069
S - British race
Shadow
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Stewart
67074
Sunbeam
67075
Surtees
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S - Non British race
Sabre
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Scarab
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Scirocco
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SFX - with Frank Karl of Healey fame.
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S - FJ & F3
Sadler
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67082
Stanguellini
67083
67084
67085
S - Specials
Satellite Special
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Shadetree Special
67094
Singer Bantam Special
67095
Skinner Special - of SU carbs... Far be it for me, as an engineering numpty to challenge, but unequal length carb intakes?67096
Not sure if anyone is aware of the new MSNZ Media Accreditation policy published July 24th? Only 7 pages of it.
They want events and motorsport publicising - but seem to be doing their level best to make sure it isn't publicised, by those of us who are freelance anyway.
Spgeti
07-28-2020, 09:12 AM
Not sure if anyone is aware of the new MSNZ Media Accreditation policy published July 24th? Only 7 pages of it.
They want events and motorsport publicising - but seem to be doing their level best to make sure it isn't publicised, by those of us who are freelance anyway.
We have questioned this and in particular for all you freelance photographers and given a list of names which includes you as well Ray.
Working with Tim Hill of HRC Events and I am more than happy to support an application from any of you from our own Club as well.
Cheers
Thanks Bruce. It was Tim who alerted me. Appreciate the support.
I'm afraid I'm very much in the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it', school of thought. Not sure if Nigel is aware, as MSNZ apparently only sent the info out to their own media people.
For those who are not aware, even though free lance photographers such as Nigel and myself, have media accreditation with HRC and Hampton Downs, neither of us qualified as MSNZ Media. MSNZ are now insisting that ALL media are only accredited through them, each with his/her own vest, but the qualifying criteria is way over the top.
They are also grading them Gold, Silver and Bronze, meaning of course that those at the lower level can only cover club events and have to be under the wing of a more senior person at higher profile events... Most of our events are National.
As we have often been the only two taking photographs at some events, particularly on the Friday or Saturday, quite how this will help publicise the sport is beyond me. There will also be restrictions to photographing in the pits, requiring fire resistant clothing in some instances.
I gather one rally photographer sadly lost his life, even though 200m from the road, in a freak accident, so once again, seems like a panic and over-reaction to an isolated incident. Probably not helped by government or council H & S interference and the usual blame game.
I bet my Dad would be rolling his eyes, given his trackside access at Donington with no Armco or concrete as protection and 600BHP Mercedes and Auto Unions on skinny tyres.
Hung up the crash helmet 2016.
Is it now time to hang up the camera?
nigel watts
07-28-2020, 11:36 PM
Ray, Tim Hill sent me a heads up but I'm not planning on doing anything. If that's what MSNZ want then I'll probably just walk away and do something else.
Not exactly an incentive is it Nigel. Fortunately, Hampton Downs does at least have some good viewing/photographic spots from the spectator areas, but that isn't the point.
T - British road
Talbot
67098
Tojeiro - may have been published before, but worth reposting. AU = Nottinghamshire registration.
67099
Triumph - another with an AU registration!
67100
Turner - Arthur Nash, who rebuilt my 1300cc Mini engine. Pity I never got to run it again in the UK as it would have been interesting to compare times. Sold the twin SU's only last week on TradeMe. Heading for a race Austin A40 in Hastings.
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Spgeti
07-29-2020, 05:23 AM
Ray, Tim Hill sent me a heads up but I'm not planning on doing anything. If that's what MSNZ want then I'll probably just walk away and do something else.
I will talk to Tim tomorrow and briefly talked about this today.
Your name was included on our list Nigel and I certainly don’t want to lose any of you from enjoying your hobby and the fantastic photos you guys take of our groups cars.
Regards
Bruce
T - non British road
Talbot
67102
Tesla
67103
Toyota
67104
Trekka
67105
T - British race
Techcraft Buick
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Thinwall Special
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Token - sorry about the shadows but I only managed a couple of pics of this car. That is probably other McLaren Trust members standing at the top of the grandstand! Our allocated seats were at the front of the stand, right behind that chicken wire. So we got there early and sat at the top instead and occasionally turned around to view the start finish line.
67114
Trojan
67115
T - non British race
Talbot
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Talon
67131
Tec Mec
67132
Tatuus Toyota
67133
T - FJ & F3
Talisman
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Taraschi
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67136
Terrier
67137
T - Specials
Thompson Special
67144
Triford Special
67145
Triumph Lotus Special
67146
Tuatara - posted before but deserves a second showing.
67147
U/V British road
Ultima
67148
Unipower - my favourite of all the Mini based cars
67149
Vanden Plas - languishing in a Cornwall card yard, 2005. Local car judging by the registration plate.
67150
Vauxhall
67151
U V - Non British road
Veritas
67159
Vespa
67160
Volvo
67161
VW
67162
U V - British race
Van Dieman
67165
67166
Vanwall
67167
67168
U V - non British race - not many!
Valour
67171
Voisin - published previously
67172
U/V - FJ & F3
Volpini
67173
67174
67175
67176
U V - Specials
UCM
67178
'Unnamed Special'! If anyone knows, please let me know. On Carjam as 'Bugatti Black', but does not go in my 'Replica' file as obviously not a replica. I'll rename and re-file it as Bugatti Black Spl.
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V8 60 Ford
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67180
Roger Dowding
08-08-2020, 04:00 AM
ERC, The Ford V8-60.. Do you know whose it is ? - The number Plate 34,703 - looks like this period issue - 1941 - 46 - with a diamond symbol in the centre ..
Presume it was built like this in that period - A Nice piece of Engineering.
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Roger Dowding
08-08-2020, 04:21 AM
ERC and others - answered my own question - information and photo from the Leadfoot Website.
" Roy was born 1942 and lived in Hamilton nearly all his life. His first car was a 1930 Ford Model A that he purchased when he was 16. He joined NZ Vintage Car Club at that time and has been a member for 54 years. Roy has owned a wide variety of early Fords and V8s, Lincoln Zephyrs and more recently delved into vintage racing machinery – speedway midget, hill climb sprinter, both fitted with V8 60 engine and driven in a few vintage hill climb and circuit race meetings.
1938 V8 60 Special – This car was built up at the turn of the century as a period special from the 1930s using an American 1938 Ford V8 60 engine, 2.3 litre, 136cu.in.; 1938 Lincoln Zephyr 3 speed gear box, with 1940 English Ford front and rear axles and steering box; using transverse springs and cable brakes; aluminium body. It has competed in several vintage hill climbs and circuit race meetings during the last 10 years. "
The photo - courtesy Leadfoot page;
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W-Z - British Road
Warwick GT
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Westfield
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Wolseley
67185
Wolseley Hornet
67186
W - Z overseas
Well, not many there!
Willys - taken at Goodwood but appears to be wearing NZ numberplates.
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On to W - Z British race
Walker Climax
67190
Wheatcroft Hart
67191
Williams
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67193
Wolf
67194
W - Z Specials
Wacky racers - good enough for Lord March, good enough for me!
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67203
Wells Coyote
67204
Welsor Clubman
67205
Well, that is the end of the first run through alphabetically. It must be obvious that there are loads that haven't been covered and some letters where there were slim or zero pickings. I may start again.
Many thanks to Tim Hill and Bruce for going to bat on behalf of we free lance photographers/media, with MSNZ. It looks as though, with HRC's backing, we won't be confined to the public areas, at National and lower level meetings, if we apply for 'Silver' accreditation.
As we generally don't bother with 'tier 1' championship meetings anyway, we should be OK. All we need now is a good turnout of cars, which looks to be the biggest challenge for organisers. Getting entries in late is not going to cut it anymore, as organisers, quite rightly, will be cancelling events if numbers are low at the closing date.
Spgeti
08-11-2020, 01:08 AM
We can only but try Ray, but to all of you guys who want to enjoy your hobby of photography please do contact Tim or myself and we will write a letter to cover you in your application to MSNZ.
We, HMC/HSC have some great cars coming this season, like Paul with his FIA Falcon Sprint, Chris with his Holman Moody 427 Fairlane and Leon with his Galaxie 427 plus a gaggle of Anglia’s.
We can only but try and Ray is right, get your entries in early.
ERC Awards dinner for Saturday night, off again.
back to A...
Ariel Atom
67206
Armstrong Siddeley
67207
Aston Martin
67208
Atalanta
67210
Atco
67209
A - non British
AMC - not as good a pic as the local ones, but taken 1973 when Woodcote was a really high speed corner.
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American la France
67214
Aquada
67215
Auburn
67216
A - British race
Arrows
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Aston Martin
67218
Austin - 1937 - as driven by Charles Goodacre
67219
2004 - Austin Seven Twin cam at Donington, with twin rear wheels
67220
Roger Dowding
08-14-2020, 03:27 AM
1,011,101 Wow - actually 1,011,108 when I just looked .. So you didn't break TRS or even Brake it. Thanks Ray
ERC, what is the background to the 1937 Austin Racer #35 in the scrub, is it one of the cars in the last photo #10 and #1.?.
I note #1 with the twin rear wheels. - Would like to know a bit of the History ..
Sorry Roger, without doing some research, I'm not sure about any link between the three Austins. Fitting twin rear wheels was often done in hillclimbs for better traction before they developed wider tyres, but also for circuit racing - see pic below, which I think is the same car. The little lip above the radiator grille is one giveaway.
Just had a quick look at the entry for the 1937 meeting.
Driver of car 35 was Charles Goodacre.
Someone posted a 2010 pic of the Austins in the Donington museum, but neither had twin rear wheels.
One is a Twin cam and one I think is a side valve. There was also a pale blue car built in the 1970's, which was at Donington last time I went - but in the paddock cafe!
This is Bert Hadley Donington 1937 - but not sure which meeting. I can't fix it with the scans I did of old Donington programmes (since sold). Clearly shows the twin rear wheels.
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A - non-British race
Alfa Romeo
67230
67231
ATS
67232
Auto Union
67233
A - F3 & FJ
Alexis
67234
Alfa Dana
67235
Ausper
67237
Autosud
67236
A - Specials
A40 Special
67245
Alfriston Jaguar
67246
Alton Jaguar
67247
Arnold-Kidwell
67248
Note: Some of the cars have been shown before, but hopefully the images haven't.
B - British road
Bristol
67254
Brough Superior - the Nottingham Industrial Museum may not be in the same league as Haynes, Brooklands, Caistor or Gaydon, but if you are in the area, well worth a visit.
67255
BSA
67256
Buckler - the Chelsea Hillclimb often provided a great backdrop for static pics.
67257
67258
Kevin Hirst
08-18-2020, 07:58 PM
A - Specials
A40 Special
67245
Alfriston Jaguar
67246
Alton Jaguar
67247
Arnold-Kidwell
67248
Note: Some of the cars have been shown before, but hopefully the images haven't.
Nice to see my locost next to the alfriston jaguar, myself leaning against it, Elleslie concourse
That was way back in 2007 Kevin!
B - non British
Beattie. Always so well presented.
67259
BMW
67260
Bugatti
67261
Buick
67262
Roger Dowding
08-19-2020, 03:15 AM
Nice to see my locost next to the alfriston jaguar, myself leaning against it, Ellerslie concourse
A couple of photos Kevin showed me of the " locost ".
67268
Kevin Hirst
08-19-2020, 08:33 PM
A couple of photos Kevin showed me of the " locost ".
67268
Yes, 2007, locost & jaguar both same age, gues the signature on bottom photo, not you Roger, you know.
B - British race
Brabham
67270
BRM
67271
67272
BRP
67273
B - non British race
Begg
67281
67282
Bugatti
67283
Buick? Can someone please confirm what this single seater is?
67284
B - F3 & F Junior
Bandini
67316
BMC
67317
Bond
67318
Brabham
67319
B - specials - such a shame that roll over bars have destroyed the looks of many of these cars.
Beowulf - RiP Richard.
67329
BMH 'Comic Book' Special
67330
Briggs Mercury Special
67331
On the anniversary of his passing, the Ralph Watson BSA Special
1983 - before the oil cooler was fitted.
67334
2017
67332
67333
Trevor Sheffield
08-23-2020, 04:36 AM
In respect of the BSA photos, it is significant that the first photo shows the car in its original form, with poppet valve engine and nineteen inch wheels, whereas the following photos show the the car in its final form with rotary valve engine and fifteen inch wheels.
The first photo shows Ralph driving in his significant modified helmet and those following presumably show Ray Ferner driving, i.e. the current very respectful owner of the car. It is truly gratifying that the car remains carefully cared for and in regular competition.
Roger Dowding
08-23-2020, 05:01 AM
In respect of the BSA photos, it is significant that the first photo shows the car in its original form, with poppet valve engine and nineteen inch wheels, whereas the following photos show the the car in its final form with rotary valve engine and fifteen inch wheels.
The first photo shows Ralph driving in his significant modified helmet and those following presumably show Ray Ferner driving, i.e. the current very respectful owner of the car. It is truly gratifying that the car remains carefully cared for and in regular competition.
Indeed Trevor, an appropriate tribute to the late Ralph Watson, your very great Mate.
Thanks Trevor. Always good to have accurate information. Great to see the car out regularly.
C - British road
Caterham - who would have thought that Chapman's basic design would be so successful?
67339
Chevron
67340
Cooper Jaguar - Just love the 1950's and early 1960's sports racing cars. So many one offs and short run stuff too.
67341
Crossle
67342
Help! Can anyone please identify these autographs?
I know Petter Solberg and Marcus Gronholm, but on the left? No guesses please - if possible.
2004 Rally NZ
67343
khyndart in CA
08-24-2020, 09:45 PM
B - non British race
Buick? Can someone please confirm what this single seater is?
67284
Ray,
Here is a bit of information about the USAC Sabre Champ cars.
http://www.indianaopenwheel.com/showthread.php?t=8532&page=4&styleid=1
(Ken H)
Thanks Ken. Much appreciated.
C - Non British toad
Chevrolet
67353
Chrysler
67354
Citroen
67355
Cord
67356
Oldfart
08-25-2020, 06:49 AM
Ray, was that tongue in cheek for a bright green car, and a French one "C Non British Toad" :)
Roger Dowding
08-25-2020, 10:55 PM
Ray, was that tongue in cheek for a bright green car, and a French one "C Non British Toad" :)
Saw that must be Kermit's bigger brother !! he he ehh !!
Whoops! Always happy to have typos corrected. The frog was anaemic... (I haven't corrected it. Lettering has worn off the keyboard - plus the fact that I am fat fingered when it comes to typing.)
Thanks to Tim at HRC, I have now submitted my media accreditation application to MSNZ, silver.
C - British race
Chevron (UK)
67360
Cooper Bristol
67361
Crossle
67362
Cosworth 4WD
67363
I wonder where all the ex-Donington Museum cars are now - and will we ever see some of them in public ever again?
Spgeti
08-26-2020, 03:21 AM
Thanks to Tim at HRC, I have now submitted my media accreditation application to MSNZ, silver.[/QUOTE]
Yes I to have helped Mike Feisst get his silver accreditation.
Anyone else we can help, please just ask.
Cheers
Approved today. Well done MSNZ. Very efficient turnaround.
C - FJ & F3
Cooper
67366
67367
67368
67369
Kevin Hirst
08-27-2020, 07:48 PM
C - FJ & F3
Cooper
67366
67367
67368
67369
And myselt talking to Fred at the northland special at domain hillclimb [top photo]
Oldfart
08-27-2020, 07:49 PM
And myselt talking to Fred at the northland special at domain hillclimb [top photo]
You both look a little less mature than the last time I saw you :). When was the last domain? I ran the Gordini.
That pic was 2006 Rhys. I have a feeling that 2007 was the last held. I have posted this 2007 pic before.
67371
Auckland Council in its infinite wisdom (sic), then slapped a $5,000 fee on the venue - which at the time, was about the same as it cost to hire Pukekohe.
A real shame as although it was only about twenty odd seconds for the quicker cars, several thousand people used to spectate and of course, there was no means of collecting gate money.
A sad loss, along with the Chelsea Hillclimb - plus permanent venues that have been lost or are no longer available.
Not much happens north of the harbour bridge these days, in terms of sealed events.
When you consider that the Whenuapai Wings & Wheels often attracted in excess of 25,000 people (may have been much higher as I have heard 40,000 mentioned), we have lost some very popular events, that is, popular spectator events.
C - Specials. As mentioned, several cars have been shown before. (Not counting the fact that they have disappeared - again...) Reloaded 16:40.
Cole Baker Spl
67376
Cornis Engineering Spl
67377
67378
CWM Ford V8 Spl - the only pic I appear to have. May have to search through the 'not yet named' pile.
67379
D - British road
Daimler
67380
67381
67382
Davrian
67383
D - none British road
Datsun - I think! Not too good on Japanese cars - and Americana - and newer single seaters...
67388
Ricky Cooper's immaculate and well driven Datsun Z has now gone to a new home.
67389
Delage
67391
de Thomaso
67390
Dodge
67392
D - non-British race
Dallara
67396
Darracq
67397
de Thomaso
67398
Dome
67399
F - British Ford. Needless to say, 100's! A quick check, currently 2364 filed... Posted in date order.
67402
67403
Chris Milner's Capri was a dominant class winner in Curborough sprints. Although effectively standard, Chris developed the suspension and handling to great effect.
67404
67405
67406
Note the Singer Bantam in the background. I bought a basket case from Kevin Andrew, but it was beyond me so I sold it on.
khyndart in CA
08-31-2020, 11:23 PM
Ray,
Interesting to see Dave Brodie's Escort at Mallory Park signed as David A Brodie on the door.
This is the famous " Run Baby Run" car.
" Brodie’s Ford Escort MkI was the ultimate modified sports car, called ‘Run Baby Run’. Powered by a specially modified 2.1 litre BDA engine, the car was rumoured to have won over 200 races between 1969 and 1972. This car set the fastest lap time (57.6 seconds) at Crystal Palace in 1971, a time that has never been beaten in the special saloons series (over 1300cc)."
What year was this taken ?
Ken H
What year was this taken ? Ken H Hi Ken. With all my posted pics, the name of the file gives the date. The Brodie Escort I have also posted previously (different pic).
Pic is 170_0419 = 1(9)70 April 19 - Mallory Park.
F - British Ford (continued)
1983
67408
67409
67410
67411
More Fords
1974 - 'Ford Berpop' - and just found out today, that this car actually has a connection with NZ. 'Berpop 1' started with a 1650cc engine, before acquiring V8 power. Sadly, this is the only pic I have of this car, which didn't always arrive and probably didn't often finish.
67413
1977 - Cadwell Park. The pre '57 Classic Saloons were allowed very limited modifications but that meant they were great to watch. I have always thought that the NZ Hooters series could have had a class for limited modifications, without destroying the intent.
67414
1989
67415
2017
67416
F - more (NZ) Fords
67417
67418
67419
67420
F - yet more Fords
67421
67422
67423
67424
F - non British continued
Facel Vega
67432
Ferrari (road going) like Ford UK, quite a few - 850
67433
67434
Fiat
67435
F- British race
Ferguson
67443
Force India
67444
Frazer Nash
67445
67446
F - non British race
Ferrari of course... (240 files)
67457
67453
67454
67455
67456
Roger Dowding
09-09-2020, 12:04 AM
ERC, going by your photo numbering system the Blue " Roycroft " Ferrari - top photo post #3578 must have been at Ardmore January 1989.
Cheers
You've got it Roger!
F - Specials
Factory Five
67466
Ford Spl
67467
Ford Custaxie
67468
Fred Davies Spl
67469
G - British road going
Gilbern
67481
Ginetta
67482
Gordon Keeble - still my favourite - Roger will be looking at the background.
67483
GTM - previously known as the Cox GTM
67484
G - plus general displays
Gazelle Ford Special
67486
67487
General display - Haynes Museum's 'Red Room'
67488
67489
H - British road
Hillman
67501
Not HRG - Frazer Nash - see following post!
67523
Humber
67503
HWM
67504
Oldfart
09-13-2020, 04:20 AM
Ray, your HRG looks much more like Frazer Nash badge to me, as usual could well be wrong, but the badge shapes are different, HRG with squared off ends, FN more pointed.67518
Well spotted Rhys and many thanks! Now corrected. Should have gone to Specsavers.
H - non British
Hino
67524
Holden - Greg Murphy
67525
Honda - Racing Ray Williams
67526
Hudson
67527
Oldfart
09-14-2020, 12:05 PM
Bloody rivet counters :) It's pretty excusable, given the history GN, HRG, AFN, Godfrey and Frazer Nash to have a mix up :) The cars are pretty similar too!
Always happy to have corrections sorted Rhys. I can be pedantic and hate filing stuff incorrectly. Biggest problem is dates on old slides or on old black and white film without markings, especially as Dad often used bulk stock film.
H - British race
Hesketh
67535
HWM
67536
67537
67538
For those on TradeMe in NZ, I have listed a fair few Jaguar items for sale.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2784613427
J - British
Jaguar
67557
67558
67559
67560
67561
L - British
Lagonda
67571
Lea Francis
67572
Lotus
67573
67574
do not forget Lyncar in racing "L"s
do not forget Lyncar in racing "L"s I only had one pic - and that has already been posted!
Kevin Hirst
09-18-2020, 07:30 PM
I only had one pic - and that has already been posted!
Or Locost
Sorry Kevin. Nothing in the library!
L - Non British
Lamborghini
67575
Lancia
67576
Leyland
67577
Lincoln
67578
Roger Dowding
09-19-2020, 02:01 AM
Sorry Kevin. Nothing in the library!
I have photos of Kevin's " Locost " - think already posted - but here again and the photo is autographed.
L is for Local
67580
and going slightly backwards
J is for Jeep - but not as we know it a Brazilian Jeep.. my neighbour from Brazil says they were everywhere in his homeland.
67581
Sorry to hijack the thread ERC .. now have an extra L in the L-Library ..
Library is only my own stuff Roger!
Roger Dowding
09-20-2020, 04:58 AM
Library is only my own stuff Roger!
Cheers Ray,
Thought, seeing as I " borrow " stuff from your Library, I should give something back !.
Roger
L - British race
Lola - quite a few, so deserving of a dedicated post
67594
67595
67596
67597
67598
Note: The limit is 6 images per post, but I cut it down to 4 or 5, as I know Rhys was having viewing problems and suspect that this may have helped.
Oldfart
09-21-2020, 12:28 AM
It has helped immensely particularly towards the end of a page. It didn't seem to matter early on a particular page. Weird.
I had the same problem Rhys. It may have something to do with the computer memory, especially on a cheaper laptop - which is what I use in the evenings - PC during the day.
Just booked my accommodation for Goodwood next year! Not exactly cheap but no doubt that locally, they are all aware of the demand for accommodation at Goodwood time. Premier Inn, Bognor Regis.
L - Lotus also deserves a post
67603
Some subtle differences between these next two, showing how difficult it is for artists and model makers!
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67605
67607
Icebreaker this weekend - which isn't in Auckland... Will be down Sunday for a while.
Arrows/AES/Touring cars in a combined grid of 35. Time to see if I can remember how to take photographs.
L - FJ
Lola
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67614
Lotus
67615
67616
M - British road
MARCH
67620
Marcos
67621
McLaren
67622
Merlyn
67623
Morgan
67624
nigel watts
09-24-2020, 06:26 AM
Icebreaker this weekend - which isn't in Auckland... Will be down Sunday for a while.
Arrows/AES/Touring cars in a combined grid of 35. Time to see if I can remember how to take photographs.
Did you manage to get access to the track & pits Ray.
Spectators [me] have to make do on the outside
Using the usual media accreditation Nigel. You could be OK to do the same, as I thought the new MSNZ system didn't come in until Sept 30th? Check with HRC.
Added: Sorry, the MSNZ system is already in.
Had to do a page for MG... Number in the system (without my Magnette) 1780.
MG
67639
67640
67641
67642
Den Williams' underrated very rare MG Maestro turbo.
67643
Roger Dowding
09-24-2020, 11:48 PM
M for Maestro - Drove an Austin Maestro in the UK in 1988 - the guy we stayed with was a Car Dealer, in Southern Scotland and he bought the car at Auction in Glasgow - we went in this car, so someone had to drive it back to Parton, near Castle Douglas and Lockerbie. the one and only drive. There can't be many in NZ now or even back in the late 1980's !!
I had 2 MG Montego EFis and 1 Montego Turbo. Apart from Den's car above, I have never seen a Maestro in NZ. We rented a Maestro in the UK either 1987 or 1990. Loved 'em all.
I did two races, a hillclimb and a sprint in the EFi. Apart from a soggy head lining, great cars. Still the most comfortable of seats for long distance too.
M - for Morris (probably more M's of British cars in the system, than any other...)
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Sitting at home now, early Sunday afternoon, in bright sunshine... It wasn't quite like that when I left Hampton Downs. Couldn't stay too long as I had to be back to hand over some sales on Trade Me, so hopefully, the weather also cleared down at the track.
The last pic that I took:
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M - more Morgans
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M - Maserati
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Took my car in for a service today and decided I had to return with the camera (I don't use a mobile phone, with camera).
No, NOT a replica. Genuine Jaguar continuation. Wow.
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M - Mercedes
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Yet more 'M's
Mazda
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M - British race
MARCH
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Mirage
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Mondiale
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Monza Jaguar
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McLaren
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Still on M...
Maserati
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M - More Maseratis - 250F
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It is almost worth going to Goodwood just for this one grid! Glorious.
2016
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2018
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M - yet again McRae
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M - Mini specials
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Just realised last night, that despite all the photographs I have taken over the years, I don't have a single one of my first motorbike! (Le Velocette - 192cc twin with hand starter, 3 speed gear lever.)
NO - British
Noble
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Nobel
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NO - non British (pictures disappeared again...)
Nissan
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Opel
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R - British road
Railton
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Reliant
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Rolls Royce
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Rover
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I haven't forgotten Riley. A set to follow.
R - Riley
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More Rileys, because I like them!
Ex Mike Hawthorn I think
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even more Rileys. No excuses.
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Roger Dowding
10-15-2020, 10:55 PM
ERC, Love the Riley Moth, FHY100 - Where was the photo taken ??
See the Elf for Spgeti too !!
Come from a Riley Family so thanks a lot for them all !
Riley Moth at Leadfoot, 2019.
Wish I'd never sold my RME Riley, but back then, I had neither the skills nor the facilities to restore it - and I was skint and needed the money.
Now I have the facilities and the money - but still don't have the skills.
Probably an affinity through Raymond Mays and the 'White Riley' which led to the ERA.
Milan Fistonic
10-17-2020, 04:32 AM
More Rileys, because I like them!
Ex Mike Hawthorn I think
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That is the Hawthorn Riley. This picture is from a 1951 Motorsport magazine.
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Roger Dowding
10-17-2020, 05:23 AM
That is the Hawthorn Riley. This picture is from a 1951 Motorsport magazine.
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Note the addition of the Bow-Tie in the recent photo by ERC, a Hawthorn tradition to wear one while racing..
R - Renault
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R - Single seaters
Ralt
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Riley
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Royale
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A bit of a break whilst filing a few more recent pics.
Triumphs at Smales farm in June
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Would sir prefer a newer Alvis or an older model?
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Morris & Austin (Thanks Roger - I missed that)
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Roger Dowding
10-21-2020, 03:18 AM
John Vevers 3-litre Austin next to Andrew Dyer's 1800 [ a Morris that was a recent find and very tidy too !! ].
See you there on Sunday ERC ?
A dip into the sundries pile
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khyndart in CA
10-23-2020, 12:56 AM
Ray,
Does that last photo mean going "flat out" down the street ? :)
Very good Ken! Taken in St Petersburg (the Russian one) in 2014, not Sydney.
More from the sundries pile
Goodwood 2016
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Coventry Transport Museum- well worth a visit
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The G type ERA (1 only) was converted to a Bristol Type 450 for Le Mans.
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Seen at Caffeine Classics today, this repowered MGB with a home built, wooden tonneau. Beautifully done too.
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More sundries
Goodwood FoS 2004
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Was the plug gap really supposed to be 25 thou? I thought it was .25"
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"Oi, Dad. Why can't I have a steering wheel?"
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Still on sundries
Dad made this model and I presented it to Duncan Ricketts at Goodwood, 2018.
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Sir Alfred Owen and Alec Rivers-Fletcher when the BRM was displayed at the new GEM superstore (now ASDA) early 1963, West Bridgford, Nottingham.
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S - British road
Standard
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khyndart in CA
10-28-2020, 05:14 AM
Ray, excuse my intrusion but you once again revived a memory for me of our slow, family drives in the Hyndman Standard Vanguard.
It was a 1951 Standard Vanguard Phase 1 saloon. With a 2 litre engine the same as a Ferguson tractor. 0 to 60 in a really quick 21.5 seconds !
Our car was black and on a hot day and dad smoking I was always car sick, especially on the gravel roads to Waihi Beach through the Karangahake Gorge.
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Arriving at Felix St in Te Papapa, Auckland after the drive from Kiwitahi. The young chap has to be the centre of attention !
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Driving on gravel roads is evident by the crud covering up those big shiny hub caps !
(Ken H ..)
Across the road from my parent's house, lived the owners of the local fish and chip shop. (Real chips, from fresh potatoes, fried in lard... oh and the best haddock anywhere.) Their son had a Standard Vanguard and even after all these years, I can still remember the registration - MRR 656.
He held on to that for some years and when the Austin/Morris 1100 was released, traded it in. It was hilarious, as initially, he was all over the road, having graduated from the sloppy steering of the Vanguard to the very direct rack and pinion of the 1100.
Sunbeam
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S - non-British
Subaru
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Studebaker
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Suzuki
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S - British race
Shadow
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Surtees
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S - non-British
Scarab
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Scirocco
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Suzuki
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Swift
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S - Formula Junior Stanguellini
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S - specials
Stanton Corvette
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Stanford Special
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Satellite Special
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Smith Special
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Shadetree Special
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T - British
Talbot
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Tojeiro
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More British T's
JT's Triumph, recently sold, so hopefully it will be out on track again soon.
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My favourite sports car as a kid was the TR3, yet I have never owned a Triumph. I do remember being taken for a blast in a hot TR2, reaching 90mph back in about 1964. Arthur's TR3 has been around and run for a fair while.
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TVR
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One of the star drives at the 2018 Revival.
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T - non-British
Talbot
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Toyota
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T - Single seaters
Thinwall - I suppose it should really be categorised as a Ferrari and not filed under British, but photographer's licence...
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Trident Palliser
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Trojan
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Tyrrell
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T - non-British
Talbot Lago
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Talon
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Techno
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Tec Mec
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T - FJ
Talisman
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Taraschi
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Terrier
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UV - British
Unipower
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Vauxhall
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V - non British
Volvo
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VW
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W - Wolseley
Would a 1300cc Wolseley Hornet (or Riley Elf), on twin 1.5" twin carbs carbs get a CoD
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It is important that if you head to the museum at Gaydon, that you don't overlook the overflow building, (included in your admission fee) as I suspect many of you would spend more time in there than in the main display.
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Whoops! (Many in my whoopsies file are of ERC cars that I won't publish for obvious reasons.)
This is why the old plastic holders for fire extinguishers are deemed unsafe, as you can see here where the extinguisher, complete with bracket, became a missile within the car and damaged the driver after a Pukekohe crash.
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The new short wheelbase prototype, possibly with 4 wheel steering.
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It says wheelie bin but looks as though another set of wheels might have been useful. Vehicle also stops often.
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Racing Ray Williams has the first hairpin at Leadfoot named after him...
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Couple of cans of spray paint and she'll be as good as new. No idea what happened here as I don't think any other vehicle was involved.
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A few from Smales Farm over the last few months. This really is a an absolute jewel in the local car scene, and despite running at Hampton Downs on the same day, the popularity is booming.
From Italy
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From the rear
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A mix
Good to see that some of the iconic transporters have survived and have now become classics in their own right.
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Dodge
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up early this morning ERC? must be the weather.
Roger Dowding
11-19-2020, 09:05 PM
up early this morning ERC? must be the weather.
928 - Yes he is, and the weather was good when he took the photos of the Hillman and the Sierra pair at Caffeine and Classics October 2020.. Was there too and we had a chat, as was Kevin Hirst A95, Geebeez - Graeme Banks Mazda MX5 no 107 and John B - John Bennoch Mercedes 350SL ..
Weather good in the bay today as well ..
That Hillman ..
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My photo dates are out 24 Oct, should be 25 Oct like ERC's .. the camera needs adjusting !!
Spgeti
11-20-2020, 05:17 AM
Good question Ray.......
One that I will ask for a ruling on.....
My Elf has proven race history at National level with Cooper S running gear so it most likely would get a Schedule K but I am luck as I have all the proof of documentation.
Cheers
Yes, up early as the block layers were working on a wall at just after 7am so I had to be up.
It's an interesting one Bruce, and where I fell out with the system. The Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet never came out with anything other than a 998cc, single carb engine as you well know. Transplanting a period 1275cc or even a 1320cc Cooper S engine is a straight swap, and no doubt was done in period.
The local system is such that it is OK to stuff a V8 Ford engine into a Capri and call it a Perana or a Twin Cam engine into a Cortina, or even a Ford V8 into an Escort because it WAS done in period.
The Late Jim's Wolseley 1500 ran a 1950cc crossflow head as it was a modification that COULD have been done in period, but to the best of my knowledge, only ever raced in period with a 1500cc (+rebore) but not the 1800cc MGB engines.
Equally, you can construct a single seater out of period bits and call it a special and it is accepted.
However. you can't build a saloon out of period bits and call it a special. It is an anomaly as it COULD have been done in period. Yet we have people sticking 700bhp engines into cars that never had anywhere near that sort of horsepower in period.
Funny old world.
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Very impressed with the interior of this this new Fraser.
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Spgeti
11-22-2020, 08:10 PM
Yes, up early as the block layers were working on a wall at just after 7am so I had to be up.
It's an interesting one Bruce, and where I fell out with the system. The Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet never came out with anything other than a 998cc, single carb engine as you well know. Transplanting a period 1275cc or even a 1320cc Cooper S engine is a straight swap, and no doubt was done in period.
The local system is such that it is OK to stuff a V8 Ford engine into a Capri and call it a Perana or a Twin Cam engine into a Cortina, or even a Ford V8 into an Escort because it WAS done in period.
The Late Jim's Wolseley 1500 ran a 1950cc crossflow head as it was a modification that COULD have been done in period, but to the best of my knowledge, only ever raced in period with a 1500cc (+rebore) but not the 1800cc MGB engines.
Equally, you can construct a single seater out of period bits and call it a special and it is accepted.
However. you can't build a saloon out of period bits and call it a special. It is an anomaly as it COULD have been done in period. Yet we have people sticking 700bhp engines into cars that never had anywhere near that sort of horsepower in period.
Funny old world.
I actual have had the privilege to view Jim’s COD and it would be one of the most complete COD’s I have witnessed with all details given as it should be.
He built the car in 1974 and it states that it was to replicate the period of Allcomers from the mid 60’s.
I know there is a lot of scepticism re the COD for this car considering Jim was a member of the then Commission....
However he does use “period” parts in the build of the car including the Derrington Head which near on a 1000 were cast in the mid to late 50’s for use on the B series engine.
I am personally glad the car still survives and is owned by an enthusiast who I know will keep it as it was.
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The real joy of Caffeine and Classics is that every month, there are cars/vehicles I haven't seen before.
I went along to the MGCC Autocross Sunday, Colin Dale Motorsport Park. Start time was moved later as bad weather was expected earlier. That may have put people off and combined with the road works on 20b, making access difficult, not many entrants, but interesting to note that the grass was so long, the ground so firm, that for the time I was there, they never got through the grass to any dirt!
Club Captain, Paul Walbran laying out the course in 'Joseph', possibly one of the most famous MG's in the country, and the last 'B' to compete in a World rally Championship.
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Den Williams has swapped the 8 MG 8 plates from the Maestro Turbo (which he still has), to this one.
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khyndart in CA
11-24-2020, 09:23 AM
I guess my 1962 Austin Mini Cooper would look out of place amongst some of these Minis (or part Mini) at Caffeine and Classics gatherings.
To prove mine has not been thrashed or done too many hand-brake turns, it still has the original rear brake drums after 58 years !
(Note the date in raised numbers. (19-1- 62) The car was assembled in Feb. 1962. (A bit rusty like the owner.)
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(Ken H.. )
Allan
11-24-2020, 07:21 PM
970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?
Roger Dowding
11-24-2020, 08:46 PM
970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?
Allan, many forget the " 1071 " Cooper S, used when there was a 0 - 1100cc class - the " 970 " for 0-1000, and big motors for the 1001- 1300 class..
997 and 998 were of course Cooper, not Cooper S.
My good friend, the late Nell Holdstock / Donaldson had a 997 long stroke Cooper, from memory also a 1962 model, here in NZ,as well as her 1961/62 Austin Healey 3000 Tri-carb which she brought from Canada in the 1980's - Healey is still here, Unsure what happened to the Cooper.
Here is Nell, with BMC BOY, looking at the Cooper Formula Junior single seater that Nell owned but sold to Ross BMC BOY many years ago, It is being rebuilt/restored. The Historic Formula Junior recently did a Garage Crawl looking at projects under way.
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Spent some time with Nell when flag marshalling, probably Whenuapai and Pukekohe. Lovely lady.
Ken, the joy of Caffeine and Classics is that there is zero snobbery. The mix, as you may have gathered from the many pics published on this site, varies from the pure to the outright bonkers, rare or one offs, to common.
European, American, Japanese, commercials, motorbikes, even Karts. It is exactly what it appears to be. A monthly meeting place for car enthusiasts. Your car would be very welcome and the Mini turnout also covers the mint and original, to the bonkers! (See #3665)
Just for a change, a run of replicas - some almost impossible to tell they are replicas and others are loosely based on another car. This also covers re-creations. (Recreations?) I failed English at school.
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khyndart in CA
11-25-2020, 03:57 PM
970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?
Allan,
In 1962 the 997 cc engine was the only version in Mini Coopers.
Then other sizes came later. The 1071 and 998 in 1963. The 970 and 1275 in 1964.
My car now has a 1986 998 cc engine with a gearbox that goes into 1st while still moving and brake pads that are bigger than a
matchbox ! Also it has a different paint scheme from Tartan Red / Black to Audi Racing Green / White.
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Ken H
Continuing the replicas, re-creations and specials
Hamilton Street race meeting
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November Caffeine and Classics, despite the Beach Hop as a distraction, and the grubby weather, still a healthy turnout, but about half the usual, with no need for the overflow car parks.
Several groups were there in considerable numbers, including Lotus, Early Holden, Ford Cortinas and Corsairs, plus a large group of Italian cars, mainly Alfas. As always, cars I hadn't seen there before and several catch ups with other enthusiasts.
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Roger Dowding
11-29-2020, 05:39 AM
C and C November.
ERC is the Ford obscured far right a Convertible Mark Two Cortina ?- Crayford perhaps ??.
Your photo.
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Found the answer - John Vevers photo - there were 8 Corsairs there as Ray would have seen - Didn't think there were that many in NZ - some recent imports by the Rego's
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" Year: 1968
Make: FORD
Model: CORTINA
Colour: SILVER
Submodel: MARK 2
Body Style: Convertible
VIN: 7A86G190709546206
Plate: EWS370
Engine No: HG30746
Chassis: BA92HG30746 "
Jaguar replicas and specials
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More replicas, kits etc.
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but wait, there's more...
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I do get a bit miffed when a recreation isn't noted as such in a race programme. This is a classic case. Some of the Leadfoot entrants are also guilty of supplying slightly misleading information for the programme. Don't get me wrong, it is brilliant seeing cars like this or a sharknose 1961 Ferrari, but a bit of up front honesty wouldn't go amiss. Apparently there is even talk of a couple more V16 BRMs. No one is ever going to complain about hearing one of those on full song!
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ERC,
have a look at the nostalgia forum, on there they are saying that Hall & Hall are working with one of the owen family to build 3 v16 BRMs is this the start of another F250 saga i wonder.
Remi110984
12-04-2020, 12:02 AM
Great to see all those cars through your photos. Thanks!
You can read more about the BRM recreation here:
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/historic/2020/11/you-can-buy-a-new-v16-brm-f1-car/
Well, I have booked and paid for my flights to do Goodwood in 2021 so hopefully, there will be at least one V16 running. I have only ever seen one running, way back in 2000. I am also in touch with the Bourne Museum and have arranged a private viewing on the Tuesday before Goodwood - assuming of course that the Goodwood date is the usual one, otherwise I'll have some major reshuffling to do....
PS: Just found out the dates have been announced. Revival is one week later than expected (September 17th to 19th) so I do indeed have to reshuffle everything.
Managed to get the Bognor Regis Premier Inn sorted, so it is now over to my travel agent to change the flights.
Ho hum. So much for planning early.
PPS: The flight back from LAX to AKL now $700 more than I'd paid...
Groups and grids
2003 Taupo
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2010 Hampton Downs
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2010 Chelsea
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2012 Monaco
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1970 Mallory - some rarities there!
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January 2003 - Tracer & Leisuretime (now ERC) racers. I currently own two of the front row. The MGB and the Marcos.
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2007
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2016 ladies
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Roger Dowding
12-09-2020, 03:18 AM
Thanks for all your great photos - ERC .. " 1,100,056 " views is a good number .. and it didn't break or brake the vBulletin system !!
Well done.
Happy that others can share them Roger. A bit of a waste, just locked into my own computer.
Note the ERC pic above, that the Marcos looks decidedly lopsided. After an altercation in a domino type accident or maybe the bad smash on the brow of the hill, I made a determined effort to correct it. It was lopsided due to an obvious accident way before my time, when I presume the bonnet was replaced and the extension to the front chassis rails to which the bonnet swivel hinges are attached, wasn't levelled. It sits so much better now.
Currently working on getting it back on the road again, before offering it for sale. April 2021, I will have owned it for 30 years!
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More groups and grids
1996 Domain
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2009 Goodwood's pre 1966 car park - well, part of it
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2016 Goodwood
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2018 Gaydon
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2010
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2011
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2018 - camera on full zoom and even then cropped, but hopefully, the next visit (2021) I'll have one camera with the longer zoom. (Not the bazooka lens, but a camera with a 2000mm zoom.) It isn't an ideal camera for motorsport, but OK for an occasional shot.
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2018
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TACCOC at Hampton Downs today. I couldn't stay all day - as usual.
Gemini
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The Greg Bellingham XJS making a long awaited return to the track today, driven by Todd Forsyth, whose Telstar was being driven by father Paul, but, just behind Todd here is Greg Bellingham, first time out in this MGB GT and also on track, in a BMW, Greg's daughter Casey!
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Took the bazooka lens but it was playing up. Not sure why it wouldn't auto focus. Maybe not enough juice in the camera battery?
Nope. I think it needs a repair to the Auto/Manual focus switch. Ho hum...
From Sunday.
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Sometimes, a photograph has an extra dimension because of attitude or something else. Sadly, this is a car that suffered panel damage not long after these were taken.
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Fords
Classic Trial
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ERC
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Forever known as the Bruce Manon Escort, now in the capable hands of Rob Berrgren
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Milan Fistonic
12-16-2020, 02:21 AM
Unfortunately B HIND finished the day a little bent.
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Quote for fixing the bazooka lens - $850...
An influx of Porsche Boxters to the ERC grid. All very well trying to stick to the original concept of older classics, but we need to move with the times - or fold. There is a category within the ERC series for post 1990 cars.
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Swift - static
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on the move
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Lola
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Elfin
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FMZ
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Lola
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Gemini
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Stanguellini
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Roger Dowding
12-21-2020, 08:03 PM
ERC, The Lola top photo previous post is that the car that was raced by John Histed, Ken Smith amongst others ?? raced at Matamata in 1964/65. It features in the 1963 Shell Book of NZ Motor racing too !
This car.
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I have no idea Roger. Maybe Roger Herrick will chime in to clarify its history, or any of the other historians/experts on here?
Currently watching on TradeMe, a replacement for the bazooka lens. I prefer the Auto focus to be working, so I'll sell my current one as is. No idea what it is worth but i haven't had good value out of it in terms of the number of shots. Part of the risk of buying second-hand I suppose.
Once again, a car not in the race programme. Reynard.
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Van Diemen. (Surprising the number of owners who have an incorrect spelling!)
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Trident Palliser
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Lola
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Milan Fistonic
12-22-2020, 04:51 AM
Once again, a car not in the race programme. Reynard.
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Mike Davidson according to the race results.
Milan Fistonic
12-22-2020, 05:03 AM
ERC, The Lola top photo previous post is that the car that was raced by John Histed, Ken Smith amongst others ?? raced at Matamata in 1964/65. It features in the 1963 Shell Book of NZ Motor racing too !
This car.
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No it's not the same car.
This part of an email I got from Roger about the two cars.
You were talking about John Histed’s Lola which was the sister team car of mine. John had kept all his spare parts for 40 years and kindly donated them to me when I got my car.
RogerH
12-22-2020, 05:43 AM
That's correct - both John Histed's car and my car were part of the three car quasi Lola works team (Team Fitzwilliam Racing) in 1960 predominantly racing through Europe. My car was chassis BRJ1 (the first Lola single seater made) and John's was BRJ3. John's "lost" it's chassis number when it was allocated to a new works car in mid 1960 and came to NZ in December 1961 with the made-up chassis number J.B.M/LJ/1161 - which stood for Jack Brabham Motors (sold to John Histed by Phil Kerr who worked for Jack Brabham Motors), Lola Junior and the date it was shipped from the UK in November 1961. The car has now regained a BRJ3-A identity and lives in the US while the replacement works car is known as BRJ3 (perhaps incorrectly as it was the second BRJ3) and lives in the UK.
Roger Dowding
12-22-2020, 07:01 AM
Thanks Milan and Roger H .. great information..
Will get the Histed Lola photo on here later - needs to be scanned or photographed.
Cheers
Great stuff. Maybe you also need a thread with your ' Pic and Mix Roger! (D)
Roger Dowding
12-22-2020, 09:17 AM
Great stuff. Maybe you also need a thread with your ' Pic and Mix Roger! (D)
Agree Ray,
When I said on here, I actually meant one of my threads - maybe on the Pukekohe one as photo relates to the GP meeting or the NSCC one - if john Histed was a member - in the 1950's 1960's into the 1970's most guys belonged to both the Auckland based clubs ACC and NSCC .
Cheers
Roger ..
Even though I had my leg somewhat mangled 5 weeks ago when an MGB reversed into me and crushed the leg up against another MGB, I still have a soft spot for them. It's called a calf muscle...
Although I have sold my much loved Cooper S and the Marcos may be the next to go, I still have the ex-Geoff Bonham MGB GT to sort out.
Classic Trial
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ERC Series - Greg Bellingham
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Gordon Harkness
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Oldfart
12-24-2020, 08:54 PM
More importantly Frans Cronje :)
A couple from Caffeine and Classics (on this Sunday?)
Peter's BMW
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The P76 looks quite ungainly in comparison. Just before I left the UK, there was a P76 often parked across the road from the factory where I worked. I never took a camera to work, so never grabbed a pic. Pity.
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Back to Hampton Downs
Cheetah
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Ray Bell
12-26-2020, 12:04 AM
Having just read, once again, Evan Green's book A Boot Full of Right Arms I'm somewhat tempted to think the P76 could have been a pretty good car...
They did share gearbox, rear axle and wheels with Valiants, after all.
Trevor Sheffield
12-26-2020, 08:21 AM
Having just read, once again, Evan Green's book A Boot Full of Right Arms I'm somewhat tempted to think the P76 could have been a pretty good car...
They did share gearbox, rear axle and wheels with Valiants, after all.
Agreed; socialism killed it, along with the development a lot of other good things within British industry.
Very seriously LOL.
Ray Bell
12-26-2020, 01:59 PM
Notice that the one pictured has the unique Targa Florio wheels?
Somewhere I have photos of a beautifully kept (or restored?) green Targa Florio which lived in Cootamundra. The owner also had a station wagon version, I can't remember now whether that was a factory dalliance/prototype or just something someone cobbled together. I think I have photos of it too.
I'm a year behind my magazine reading (cruising habit means time away, but the magazines keep coming), and in a note I read yesterday, on the passing of Sir Michael Edwardes last year, Red Robbo, the communist union leader at BL, called no less than 523 strikes before Edwardes got rid of him.
IMHO, BL failed mainly due to three factors. Weak management (prior to Edwardes); Red Robbo and the unions; accountants carrying more weight than engineers. Shame as I have always been a BMC/BL/Rover/MG/Jaguar/Land Rover fan and the only car I have ever owned that didn't come from that large stable, is the Marcos - and even that has a a few BL parts in it.
Ray Bell
12-27-2020, 03:37 AM
I did say I had pics of a P76 Targa Florio, didn't I?
https://i.postimg.cc/wTgf2JP9/1220fr0706-P76.jpg
P76 on the road. Hustling up through the cutting to the Cootamundra rail underpass.
https://i.postimg.cc/9Qfx52CS/1220fr0706-P76boot.jpg
The boot. Yes, it was large. And the Targa Florio wheel is evident, these were cast by Lynx Engineering.
https://i.postimg.cc/rFjhPsXx/1220fr0706-P76livingstones.jpg
Michael and Gwen. The owners, the Livingstones. They had a lot of A-Model Fords too.
https://i.postimg.cc/mrz8kScy/1220fr0706-P76rear.jpg
Three-quarter rear. The lines show up here as well as the colour which changed in the sun.
https://i.postimg.cc/SxtgmPKK/1220fr0706-P76wagon.jpg
Wagon. Apparently some thought the boot wasn't big enough.
Michael died shortly after we had this photo session. I'm guessing the cars have been passed on through the family, as did the FJ panel van he restored which was bought new by Gwen's father.
Caffeine & Classics today - without the caffeine, and a fraction of the usual numbers, but always something of interest.
This caught my eye. Body shape is based on the Volpini, but a Kiwi built special - 'Russolini' with 4 cylinder Toyota power. The builder has previously built 3 McLaren copies.
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Former ERC runner, Kelly Archer, now relaxing in Classic Trials
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Ray Bell
12-29-2020, 01:51 PM
How about this?
https://i.postimg.cc/1X7Tsnqg/1220fr-Utube-P76wagon.jpg
Screenshot from this clip:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iuLffRiDqE
1951's sports car - front engine
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2000 sports car - rear engine
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1950's single seater - front engine
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1960's single seater - rear engine
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Times change, yet even pre-war, we had the Auto Unions.
Ray Bell
12-31-2020, 12:11 AM
That Jupiter's in way better shape than the last one I looked at...
https://i.postimg.cc/0yRZ7MMv/1220jupiter2.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Y2Pdqyth/1220jupiter4.jpg
Better days are coming, but they might take a while.
Headlamp rims look to be in good nick! Better quality chrome than on the 1989 Honda 250 that I had.
Oldfart
12-31-2020, 02:02 AM
If I was donated 50 cents for every competition mile that Jupiter has done it would fund a LOT of racing!
BMW
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There are some cars where the colour schemes are photogenic, like these two.
Steve O'Donoghue - Mirage
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Michael Clark - Crossle
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At this time of the year, I traditionally update my back ups and make an effort try and file all those pics still in limbo, old stuff recently scanned awaiting dates, and/or those pics where I can't identify the car.
As I've said before, I kept a diary from 1964, but my ex-wife nicked the 1969/1970 diaries and from then on, I didn't bother again until about 1990. So pics taken between 1968 and 1990 are often the difficult ones to file. Non race meeting dates are the most difficult, as there is no race programme!
Leafing through old diaries, occasionally there is a Eureka moment when I can fix a stray car pic, such as one taken outside J A Pearce wheels in Hounslow, showing a Ford Mustang, which they have asked to reproduce, I believe for a display at Silverstone.
Ray Bell
01-03-2021, 11:56 PM
Filing pics can be a problem, lately I've been troubled trying to work out when I took this one:
https://i.postimg.cc/ZnfJ85SR/0517sirjohnwhitmoreleadfoots.jpg
It's not just that I don't know when it was, but I don't remember being there!
Maybe we should start a new thread Ray, 'Information required'? We should get far more views than in a personal picture collection.
Milan has been brilliant in answering some of my queries, but I have a fair pile that even he may not be able to help. Some will remain a 'best guess' for the date, but if the subject is identified, at least it can be filed somewhere, even if the date is an approximate year, and 00, month and 00 day.
Normally, I need the exact date, and if a car, the make. Location is then of lesser importance.
Ray Bell
01-04-2021, 08:21 AM
If someone could access the data in the picture I might find out I didn't take the photo...
That's always a possibility.
Dale Harvey
01-04-2021, 09:33 PM
The photo is obviously in Sydney and it would be the LEADFOOTS lunch. These lunches were started for Lotus Elite owners / drivers and associated persons. This one would be when Sir John Whitmore came out to race an Elite and Lotus Cortina at Eastern Creek for the Tasman revival Meeting. I recognize five or six people in the room. I don't think this shot should be in this thread though.
Dale.
I don't think this shot should be in this thread though. Dale.
There are quite a few that shouldn't really be in this thread Dale, but it is a public forum! As I suggested earlier, we need a new thread for those sorts of pics.
As an aside though, when my favourite jazz musician, Chris Barber, stopped racing his own Lotus Elite, also used as a road car, he carried on as an entrant and Sir John Whitmore drove it for him on several occasions and later, an early (fragile) Lotus Elan.
Chris is 90 years old and in a rest home now, having hung up his trombone August 2019, which is sad, but has always had a passion for cars.
Back to the pics...
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Ray Bell
01-05-2021, 01:13 AM
Originally posted by Dale Harvey
The photo is obviously in Sydney and it would be the LEADFOOTS lunch. These lunches were started for Lotus Elite owners / drivers and associated persons. This one would be when Sir John Whitmore came out to race an Elite and Lotus Cortina at Eastern Creek for the Tasman revival Meeting. I recognize five or six people in the room. I don't think this shot should be in this thread though.
Dale.
I tend to agree, Dale, however I posted it in response to the comment by ERC about finding or dating pics...
Your post, though, has helped me date it and prove it wasn't mine. Brian Caldersmith sent it to me to post on TNF on the occasion of Sir John Whitmore's death. It was accompanied by a couple of others, one a portrait painted by Brian and Brian sent this pic too, Sir John along with John and Chris Barber.
The occasion was Brian's last visit to the UK, he writes that they had not met in 30 years, "You need to know about 1960s racing (and Jazz) to understand the significance."
"Here we are in a pub outside London (Potters Bar) with Warren King, a long term Lotus employee."
https://s26.postimg.cc/ch6jio5dl/0517_BCjohnandchrisbarber_Johnwhitmore.jpg
I'm sure ERC would appreciate that one now he's mentioned Chris Barber in this thread.
And the 'Leadfoots' gathering was about the time of the 2006 Tasman Revival meeting.
Yes Ray. Always happy to get hold of Chris Barber pics.
A few more - most aren't mine of course. Note the dress code back then...
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With then wife Ottilie Patterson
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Off colour for a couple of days, hence no posts!
More Chris Barber OBE. He retains a good friendship with Sir Jackie Stewart and Bernie Ecclestone and if anyone deserved a knighthood for music it is Chris. He broke the USA's racial discrimination on musicians (see the film, Green Book) by bringing the black blues artists to the UK, and introduced the blues to the UK, in the very early 1960's.
When he retired from racing, he supported not only cars, but motorbikes and cycles and a rally car. The Lotus 47 shown here.
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Shown before, my painting of him and his Lotus Elite at Mallory Park 1962, where he made the fastest 14 from 3 heats, to run in the final - beating the Team Elite entry... Presented to Chris on stage at Mansfield, Notts, celebrating 50 years of the Chris Barber band 2004.
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With Chris 2005, when we were over in the UK after mum died and needed a weekend away from the house clearing.
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Back to the cars...
Classic Trial
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ERC Series - not long before the right steering assembly threw a wobbly, ending Paul's day early.
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Historic Saloons
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Formula Junior
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Ray Bell
01-07-2021, 11:58 PM
I like the blue one...
An Italian FJr by the look of things, Fiat 1100 powered. What make is it?
put your mouse on the car and the answer is revealed
Allan Cattle - 1959 Volpini.
You are correct 928, it should show the filename, but not always. It may depend on the computer system, or browser, as others have commented that it doesn't work for them.
Maybe a right click, 'save image as' should show the file name.
All my own pics are year - 3 digits; month - 2 digits; day - 2 digits then a 2 or 3 digit sequence, usually followed by the make of car - but not always.
Ray Bell
01-08-2021, 06:06 AM
I post remotely from this site so a right click, click on 'view image info' and you get the details with mine.
But it's true, I should have tried harder!
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Sheridan Broadbent got to grips very quickly with the BMW and I suspect will be catapulted into the faster Arrow Wheels group!
In some ways, it is sad, but totally understandable, that there is a steady shift to later saloons and GTs.
Had ERC stuck to it's BMC 4 cylinder origins, it would have folded decades ago. Even at the more purist minded TACCOC run meetings, we no longer see hordes of Lotuses, Morgans, Lotus Cortinas, Triumphs, Reliants, Jaguars, Austin Healeys, Ferraris etc., or even Minis.
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ERC Series
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Three TACCOC & Formula Junior stalwarts.
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I'm not a huge fan of Americana, but that doesn't stop me taking photographs to add to the library, currently standing at 2500 American road cars.
Quietest Caffeine & Classics yet, due to the proximity to Christmas, but still plenty to look at.
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Ray Bell
01-12-2021, 10:44 PM
See if I can match that...
https://i.postimg.cc/br6twdHR/28-1112B6orwgoncopcar.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/QtJ8zMF6/0628-05-chryslerandlunch.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/J0TsRS8T/2504plymouthandnash-MT.jpg
So far we're down a Caddy and up a Metropolitan, but the Plymouth is too early too...
https://i.postimg.cc/G3Yrbvv4/16_08-23-plymouthandvauxhallutes.jpg
Hmmm... I just have to try harder.
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