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khyndart in CA
04-13-2017, 10:14 PM
What a great idea. I will have to build a beer holder like that for my car !

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Milan Fistonic
04-13-2017, 11:45 PM
Here's another version of the Whenuapai track that was used in 1998.

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ERC
04-15-2017, 03:43 AM
Just having a break from several exhausting sessions, stripping, cleaning, scanning, listing, researching slides.
From the archives, past and recent.

A random dive landed on 'Begg', so a selection of six.



Mallory Park - looks like a young David Oxton at the pit counter. (This pic may have been published before on here.) July 8th 1973 - David's hair style hasn't really changed...
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ERC
04-16-2017, 03:16 AM
back to the old slides.



1983 I believe.
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Andy Culpin is currently finishing another E Type Jaguar, which hopefully will be seen on track, as it is not a concours build.
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Not sure of the year for this - but the number plate should really be 'SS', not 'MG'! If anyone can confirm the year, as usual, it will be a great help. Ellerslie of course.
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ERC
04-17-2017, 12:47 AM
April 17th 1930 was the birthday of one Donald "Chris" Barber. As many will know from some of my previous posts, I am a huge fan of the Chris Barber Jazz band and try to see them on every visit to the UK. As it is Chris's 87th birthday today - and he is still blowing that trombone so well - I though I'd pay a tribute in pictures.

Sadly, I don't have an original pic of him racing that first customer Lotus Elite, which was recently sold after restoration, at auction, for a record breaking £106,000. (See the Lost Lotus on YouTube.)

However, I did do a painting of him racing the Elite at the 1962 NSCC Mallory Park International meeting, where he made it to the GT final, ahead of the team Elite car of John Wagstaffe. I presented the painting to him, on stage May 2004, in Nottinghamshire, a few days before he celebrated 50 years of leading that band.



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Several of the band were keen motorsport enthusiasts and this is his ex-road manager of 25 years, Richard Oliver who used to race an MG Midget. He tells the story of Dr Jonathon Palmer, borrowing the gearbox from his Ford Transit van at the track, when his Marcos V6 had a gearbox failure. Hopefully, we'll catch up with Chris and Richard in May.
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Under the John Major government, Chris was awarded the OBE (though quite why he hasn't been knighted is a bit of a surprise). He is a huge Mercedes fan these days and has a penchant for Brabus modified cars.
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This would have been a more appropriate plate than CB 23, but Les leston beat him to it!
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Tony Herbert's well known Elite.
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The winner of the all Lotus race at the Donington reopening in 1977. Brian Cocks borrowed my oil cooler for the race!
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ERC
04-17-2017, 10:29 PM
Some (not all) of the following slides in the next post or two were in the reject pile but have been 'rescued'. Image quality might not always be as good as I would like, but cropping has made a semi worthwhile image.



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The number plate shows this to be 1968 - or maybe later, but I must have been suitably impressed to have taken a pic. These were rare in the UK at that time. Taken at Southall, probably outside John Pearce wheels from memory.
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Definitely Mallory Park in winter and it might have been a rallycross event of some sort about 1980/81.
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I had several attempts at guessing the identity of this car. Amazing what Google finds. I eventually came across an in-car video (obviously not from 1971 when this was taken). Cooper Jaguar - Lotus behind. These relatively low volume sports cars are amongst my favourites. I could have dug out the programme, but why not enjoy the technology?
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Morris Oxford at Western Springs
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Back to Cadwell Park, maybe 1980 and no race programme - which is a shame.
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ERC
04-22-2017, 01:32 AM
Mick Hill's VW - a handful in the dry so goodness knows how it went in the wet - NSCC Croft 1977.
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Riverhead October 1990- I think! I also have pics of the MG car Club at Riverhead around that time, and the date therefore might refer to the MG event. If anyone can date these two, as usual, it would be a great help.
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The Adrian Whapham March 722-1, now owned by David Heron - who sold his Swift to James Watson.
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Geoff Byman's Mini again, doing battle with Don Hardman's crossflow Mini - both these guys were previously sprint regulars.
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Paul B
04-22-2017, 06:57 AM
These are great shots, thanks very much for posting them up.

khyndart in CA
04-22-2017, 07:07 AM
Ray, Perhaps I had a distant connection to the Mick Hill Super V W.
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Mick Hill's fabulous 1976 'VW Beetle' Super Saloon, which is sometimes said to have been based on a Trojan T101, was actually built from the front suspension and the whole rear end of a T102 but not using the chassis itself.
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Hyndman hanging around the assembly of the first Trojan T 102. Oct. 1973

ERC
04-22-2017, 09:42 PM
A new UK website for Super Saloons and Modsports, which I have been able to contribute to, with one or two photographs (initially spotted on here!), has this page devoted to Mick Hill.

http://www.modbase.info/#/mick-hill/4592548015

ERC
04-22-2017, 10:03 PM
Specials



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ERC
04-25-2017, 08:59 PM
Could be 1993? Nigel Arkell leading I presume, Owen Evans.
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Not the best of photographs (from the reject pile), but published because I like the car! Iso Grifo, Shelsey Walsh, 1967. A visit back to Shelsey and Prescott with a long lens and a digital camera could be worthwhile.
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That TVR again. Scanned to pass on to the new owner. Mallory Park 1970.
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Same meeting. John Absalom's Ginetta. Ginetta G4's were quite popular in Modsports at that time.
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One of the most successful car/driver combinations for many, many years. The Hon. Pat Lindsay and 'Remus', Donington, April 1979. The lack of foliage on the Donington trees is another aid to dating photographs, though I do have a programme for this event.
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Left over from the 'Specials' set. The TS Special at Hampton Downs, January 2010 - digital not film. Ernie's 'Old Yeller' in the background.
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Roger Dowding
04-26-2017, 05:59 AM
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Ray .. ERC, you have to stop, so many great photos, and the one of the Gee Cee Ess and the Zephyr Corvette is mint. Amjust over the Hill from you at the moment in Moore St, Hillcrest / Glenfield .. cheers
Roger D,

John McKechnie
04-26-2017, 06:15 AM
The new owner of the Zephyr Corvette replica will be enjoying these 2 new pix

librules
04-26-2017, 08:13 AM
I hate to be a pedant but I think the red car in post #1512 is a Bizzarinni rather than an Iso Grifo

Bruce302
04-26-2017, 09:22 AM
Specials





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That looks so much like Rod leaning on the Zephyr.

John McKechnie
04-26-2017, 10:28 AM
Bruce- Where do you think this pic has been taken?
also the right front guard he is leaning on seems to be a brighter red than the rest of the car.

ERC
04-26-2017, 10:31 AM
I hate to be a pedant but I think the red car in post #1512 is a Bizzarinni rather than an Iso Grifo
You might well be right!!! (I hadn't checked the programme - sheer laziness - as I have scanned more than I have researched and checked at the moment.) No need for apologies as I am more than happy to have things corrected.

I seem to have spent a lot of time recently doing date corrections particularly. It is a massive jigsaw puzzle at times and just one piece of extra information can compete a hazy picture, so I have to backtrack. I usually rely far too much on memory - dangerous at my age. With one or two non-car slides checked, dates have often been confirmed, but I think Kodak's film coding was probably in batches, which may mean two or three films purchased together, may have been taken consecutively, but also, maybe two or three years apart. Such fun...

Roger - (or anyone else for that matter) we usually head for the Porana Rd garden centre for coffee - except Thursdays, around 11am. Just ask any of the staff if I'm around and they'll point you in the right direction!

Oldfart
04-26-2017, 01:37 PM
Ray, slightly OT, but I am going to Donington on Sunday for the Classic meeting. Where is your favourite spectator/photo spot?
Also driving at Prescott in May, and Shelsley "Classic Nostalgia" in July :)

ERC
04-27-2017, 02:16 AM
John - the #1511 post was at scrutineering for Ardmore, January 1989. A trick of the light with the red wing!


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Rhys - I'm afraid that Donington has effectively been ruined with the fencing from a paying spectator/photographer's perspective - and I'm a bit rusty on what spectator access is these days, but I'd suggest that corner 1 (Redgate) from the outside gives a view of the start/finish line and the sweep through Craner Curves.

From there, you can walk clockwise round the circuit to Coppice. When I last went, the weather was dreadful, but there was a track crossing around the start line area and I managed to poke a camera through a gap in the fencing at the last corner, as there was no-one else around vying for a spot!

You could also get a reasonable view of the Craner Curves from the inside. I think there has been a fair bit of tree felling in recent years, so there might be more good viewing from the inside around Starkey's Bridge.



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What date is your Prescott as we may well try for that, though it is a fair distance away for us?

We may also revisit the Coventry Transport Museum, midweek between May 18th and June 1st and would welcome a peek behind the scenes in the storage area if that can be arranged!

Someone asked at an MGCC dinner/club meeting last night what I did with so many pics - knowing that family wasn't at all interested, so I told them about 'The Roaring Season', so we might get a few more viewers/contributors.

John McKechnie
04-27-2017, 03:36 AM
Ray- Thanks for the close up.
I also thought Ardmore owing to the building- but didnt want to guess the date
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?1601-Ardmore-Reunion-1989......#2 for Ross Cammicks pix.
That would mean that this is in fact the Zephyr Corvette Replica that Rod gave the specifications to John Provo to be built.
Rod had 4 wins and a second here.
Car has just changed hands and the new owner wants to bring it out to run
Love the way that leather straps used to hold the bonnet down on the Zephyr were also used to hold the bonnet and boot down on the Monaro

Oldfart
04-27-2017, 05:50 AM
John, when I asked about those straps "back in the day" I was told to get dog collars from the local council! At that time each year the dog registration was done by changing the collar which had a brass tag rivetted on. Of course the local Town Clerk (called Dad) told me they had a real problem getting rid of the things, would I take hundreds and save them the problem. 2 was what I accepted.
Ray, I stopped work t the museum when it became obvious to me that the free entry meant that it was a haven for mums with their kids when the weather was less than pleasant outside. Each afternoon up to 30 of them would come in and sit down while their darlings played with the playground stuff and they spent time texting their friends. I didn't sign on to be a creche attendant. The non shown stuff is now stored off site, while the manager promised to take me down he never did.

John McKechnie
04-27-2017, 05:56 AM
My wife keeps grabbing the Monaro straps and using them on the Border Collies.......something about good strong leather.
I must have made about 50 metres which walked out the door.

ERC
04-28-2017, 03:34 AM
Possibly 1970 but to be checked. Davrian.
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Jenny Dell. The car being worked on is the Costin Nathan, a car which she drove very well.
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Ginetta and Spitfire at Cadwell park
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Mallory Park again
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Without checking, year or programme, but Scorpion?
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Probably July 19th 1980 - and the "For Sale" sign on the front might have put one or two off!
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ERC
04-28-2017, 09:42 PM
That Felday 4WD again - Shelsey 1967.
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One of the most famous saloon cars of the era, due mainly to the 'Run Baby Run" signage.
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I may well have posted this before - Bill Cox Capri
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There are often people in these pics that give clues. The tall guy to the left, looking away, is Dave Watson, who acted as one of the club stewards, so that confirms it as an NSCC meeting at Cadwell.

Dave was the manager of the local Hertz office and I worked part time for him on Saturday mornings. When Hertz shifted from Ford Fiestas to Renault R4's, Dave refused to drive them and it was he who christened them 'Clockwork Frogs', a name that has stuck with me ever since. It was in the Hertz garage that we used to 'race' the Fiesta's and we learned to handbrake turn...
* Pic wrongly dated as 1980, as it was in fact June 1977.


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ERC
04-29-2017, 10:10 PM
Also posted in Steve's Ford book thread



McSkimming number 1. Steve is now back in NZ after some time in Australia.
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McSkimming 2 - his brother, though he 'borrowed' the number... A bit of suspension work required.
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ERC
05-03-2017, 05:16 AM
Post #1512 - I was right. It was in the programme as an Iso Grifo - but agree, they seem to be almost identical.

khyndart in CA
05-03-2017, 11:35 PM
I hate to be a pedant but I think the red car in post #1512 is a Bizzarinni rather than an Iso Grifo

In a way you are both correct as Giotto Bizzarrini designed both of these beautiful machines in the 1960s
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librules
05-04-2017, 02:43 AM
In a way you are both correct as Giotto Bizzarrini designed both of these beautiful machines in the 1960s
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My bad. I'm more familiar with the later Grifos. Cheers

librules
05-04-2017, 02:57 AM
To paraphrase an old advertising campaign, would it be fair to say 'Body by Giugiaro, Soul by Bizzarrini' ?

khyndart in CA
05-04-2017, 05:02 AM
Not your bad, librules, when you are correct in my humble opinion.



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Roger Dowding
05-04-2017, 05:17 AM
Also posted in Steve's Ford book thread



McSkimming number 1. Steve is now back in NZ after some time in Australia.
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McSkimming 2 - his brother, though he 'borrowed' the number... A bit of suspension work required.
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Mark Three Zephyr, got to love them, The first new Car my Father owned, was a 1963 Zephyr 6,

ERC
05-04-2017, 10:35 PM
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Croft, May 1977
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Croft July 1977 I think Walter rather liked the digits 3 & 8.
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ERC
05-05-2017, 03:14 AM
Ray, is that a Hawke beside the Marcos, looks like the right body ..

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Found my Hamilton Programme at last. I had it alongside the laptop and hidden under a book, (my wife probably tidied up...) rather than in the box or pile of programmes in what I refer to as an office and my wife refers to as either a tip or a no-go area.

Car 11 is down in the programme as a 1961 Ford Scorpion and driven by Kylie Walker. Such an error prone programme that it may or may not be 100% correct - and I can't remember seeing the car since. An internet search hasn't shown up anything though.

ERC
05-06-2017, 12:35 AM
Going back to old slides that are in glass, but have benefitted from a strip and clean up, whilst trying to log the film codes and the dates! Apologies again if any have been posted before. In date order.



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May 15th 1977 at NSCC Croft. Arthur Collier's Skoda.
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Donington 1980, Frazer Nash
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...and again at Goodwood 2016
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ERC
05-09-2017, 02:45 AM
First Lambo I think I had seen. At the local garage. Parent's house was the one shown directly above the Duckhams sign. Probably about 1969 - going by the number plates.
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Richard Hudson-Evans in the Mini based Cox GTM. later, the name changed to just GTM.
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The Jaguar XK150 driven by Dave Preece, July 1980. Purists may prefer the XK120 but I rather like the XK150.
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Lotus Seven copies are always difficult to name, so if anyone can confirm the makes for these two, I'd be grateful. I could guess, but won't!
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At one time, this was probably the most raced classic car in the country, as Tony Herbert was able to enter in about three classes at many meetings - and did so! I'm not sure of the date or event, as it could be a TACCOC practice day but not sure about the tents across the other side of the track. Could be a practice day before a Nissan Mobil 500 meeting?
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ERC
05-11-2017, 10:35 PM
Trying to categorise/date before I go away, so not much scanning being done, but a lot of data management work. A recalcitrant scanner that doesn't always focus properly isn't helping... As usual - A Mix of Pics.


Brands Hatch 1971
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I think this is a Miller, but I'm not too hot on cars like this. At Silverstone July 1977
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No such problems with the Lola Aston Martin though! July 1980 and I still haven't tracked down a programme for this meeting.
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I was having problems with my own camera at this meeting. Using a Russian Leica or Contax copy called a Kiev. On several occasions, the film jammed and I had to open the back, hence the leaked light. never had that problem with Dad's old Leica, nor a succession of Pentax film cameras.
Ginetta G4.
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This might just be the first Ellerslie Concours I attended in 1983.
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One for Bruce - and I think 1991. One of my favourite Alfa's for looks.
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Spgeti
05-11-2017, 11:12 PM
Beautiful Montreal Ray in a really nice colour. I see it is RHD which makes it very rare as well....one of 116 in RHD.
Is this taken in NZ Ray as if it is it is owned by a lovely old gent.

Rod Grimwood
05-12-2017, 03:17 AM
Your picture from 1971 Brands Hatch, i wonder if this is the same car at Taupo this Year. Travelled with the English F1 contingent.
At Taupo this year I had the pleasure of chatting with a gentleman in a wheel chair who was looking at Bretts car and his wife mentioned he had worked for Surtees on F5000s, so I took them nex door in the pits and introduced them too the now owner. The look on his face when he saw the Surtees was unbelievable and after discussion It was the car he worked on and he burst into tears, it was an amazing moment to witness, and all those years coming back. They spent a while talking and was great to think history meeting again.
I believe that this kind of meeting is what we all do this for and why we love these special cars, as every one of them has and is something special and a part of some persons and in most cases alot of peoples life.

ERC
05-12-2017, 04:48 AM
Not sure Rod. Off overseas in a day or so, (with NO motoring items planned this time) but will try and see what the race programme says.

You are 100% correct about why we love these meetings. Thanks to TRS and published pics, I am in touch with the current owner of the ex-Longton TVR and the creator of the UK Super Saloons/Modsports website. It is great to be able to publish pics (old and new) that people can identify with and the stories and memories they can bring alive. Makes me happy to know that all the efforts by several contributors is not wasted.

Pity some of us didn't have access to decent equipment and access to certain parts of some tracks donkey's years ago! But hey. that is progress. Bet my dad, God rest his soul, would echo that sentiment. Just imagine what we'd have now if he'd had a DSLR and long lens in the late 1930's instead a plate camera and just a dozen glass plates for the day...

khyndart in CA
05-12-2017, 07:05 AM
Your picture from 1971 Brands Hatch, i wonder if this is the same car at Taupo this Year. Travelled with the English F1 contingent.
At Taupo this year I had the pleasure of chatting with a gentleman in a wheel chair who was looking at Bretts car and his wife mentioned he had worked for Surtees on F5000s, so I took them nex door in the pits and introduced them too the now owner. The look on his face when he saw the Surtees was unbelievable and after discussion It was the car he worked on and he burst into tears, it was an amazing moment to witness, and all those years coming back. They spent a while talking and was great to think history meeting again.
I believe that this kind of meeting is what we all do this for and why we love these special cars, as every one of them has and is something special and a part of some persons and in most cases alot of peoples life.

Rod,
That is a wonderful story and I can relate to all the memories coming back.

Ray, thanks for all that you post and I will miss your inputs hopefully not for long and wishing you safe travels.
That 1971 photo you took of Mike Hailwood at Brands Hatch in the Surtees TS8 (005) is the same car that he drove in the 1972 Tasman Series.
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(Sergent collection ) (Mike Hailwood. Surtees TS8. Finishing 2nd at Pukekohe. Jan. 8. 1972 )



(Ken Hyndman )

ERC
05-12-2017, 10:11 PM
Still in tidy up mode, but also tripped over a couple that I'm sure I haven't posted earlier.


Production Invictas at Thruxton 1968
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When paddocks had a sprinkling of interesting cars. You may well have noticed that in all the paddock pics I have posted so far, there is rarely anything other than British cars around.
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I had to ferret in the pile of race programmes to confirm the year - January 1971 Racing Car Show. Easy to then get side tracked, skimming through the programmes... There is plenty of good reading to be had with some very interesting articles and often relevant to NZ, at a time when several kiwis were competing in the UK.
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British Car day at Western Springs. I think, 1992.
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Goodwood Revival 2000. Terrible weather on the Friday and a biting wind on the Saturday. I have a pile of negatives still to be scanned from this meeting.
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Prototype Invicta at the Goodwood Festival of Speed, 2004. This must be the only event where I have relatively few action pics but loads of statics. Still a worthwhile event, even if you can't see much of the track.
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ERC
07-09-2017, 09:42 AM
A non-motoring trip away this time, but a couple of opportunties. Just two samples.

1) The 'Route 66 Show' alongside Hurn Airport in Bournemouth (UK) July 2nd.



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2) The Petersen Museum in Los Angeles



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I'll post more later.

Michael Clark
07-09-2017, 08:21 PM
Ray's back!

ERC
07-09-2017, 09:54 PM
...and he watched Michael on the McLaren film, shown on Air NZ!

ERC
07-10-2017, 04:41 AM
From the Route 66 show. Not really a lot for the purists but certainly a mix. Just the one batch.



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Before you ask, Bonito kit car. Originals were VW based but later cars were not. This one is used regularly and possibly in competition.
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ERC
07-10-2017, 04:45 AM
Three from the archives to clear what was ready to post before we went away.


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Geoff Daryn's Turner, 28th June 1970. This will please Dave Smith in the UK...
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Digital - Landar at Goodwood during the 2009 Mini celebration. Any in NZ I wonder?
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ERC
07-10-2017, 08:44 PM
The Petersen Museum on the edge of Hollywood has been on my bucket list for a couple of years and I finally managed it, but, staying at the Marriott at LAX, getting there (and back) was a mission, which seemed to swallow up most of the day.

I know that some of you aren't keen on museums and I understand the reasons and they do vary. Brooklands for example, is one of the most interesting, but so cramped, that many cars are almost wheel to wheel, a narrow roped off passageway corridor denying access to anything but the very front, so decent photographs are almost impossible.

Caistor Museum in Norfolk has the most amazing range of vehicles - but photography is not allowed.

Donington is a pale shadow of what it once was, and so on.

The Petersen Museum is worlds apart from any of the others on several counts. The vehicles on display are well spaced and 360 degree access is possible for well over half of them. For those who like to see any real patina of age, you'd be disappointed, as just about all are in concours condition. This is almost a museum of cars as art.

The museum contains several personal collections and also has a cellar vault, containing another 100 or so vehicles, which I may visit in the future, but as no photography is allowed, less of an interest to me, regardless of what is in there.

The exterior of the building is very impressive and if you are fans of the Ho-Ho buses, (HopOn-HopOff), stop #10 on the red route from Hollywood.



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These exhibits are in the foyer! Seniors access to the three floors was a very, very, reasonable $12US.
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Their Bugatti project.
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Mercer
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John McKechnie
07-10-2017, 08:58 PM
Ray-I assume that the no photo rule is to-
1-protect Intellectual Property.
2-prevent damage from photographing- usual museum caution.
3-stop people photoing security arrangements.
4-so the pix cant be used in a scam to sell cars.

What other reasons do they give you?

regards.
John.

khyndart in CA
07-10-2017, 09:12 PM
Ray,
Was that the # 5 McLaren M8F that Chris MacAllister has been driving in recent years, at the Petersen Museum?
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(Ken H)

ERC
07-11-2017, 01:31 AM
Hi John,

No idea of the reasons for Caistor, but I don't think damage from photography is normally an issue with cars. Yes, security or scams could be an issue, but I suppose the old adage applies. "My sandpit, my rules".

Often no reasons are given. At the Peterhof Palace in St Petersberg for example, they are shifting $1USD worth of paying customers a day through - and they don't want people dawdling taking photographs. They just want more people going through.

Hi Ken,

It could well be the same car. The Petersen website is quite a good one, but somehow or other, I didn't get a catalogue.

ERC
07-11-2017, 03:38 AM
Still in the lobby...



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Then up to the 3rd floor. Cisistalia, with a recreated Benz in the background. This shows pretty well the spacious settings. Unlike the UK's Coventry Transport Museum, or even the National Motor Museum, no attempts to create a diorama.
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A Boyd Coddington concept car (The Aluma) built for Mitsubishi in 1992.
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librules
07-11-2017, 10:06 AM
I visited the Petersen museum about 4 weeks ago (thanks to a 24 hour flight delay) and did the vault tour. The main reasons photos are banned related to security, including the fact that many of the cars in that area do not belong to the museum. Even though the tour went for 2 hours, at least half of the area was off-limits and a security guard followed the group at all times to make sure they didn't stray. The guide was a former assistant of Mr Petersen, and talked almost non-stop for the 2 hours, without any drinks or other aids. Impressive (although some of her info was at times wide of the mark). Well worth a visit. The McLaren was actually down there in the off-limits area at the time of my visit.

ERC
07-11-2017, 09:30 PM
Interesting post librules. I'll probably get there again one day. It appears they rotate exhibits more often than most museums, as Google search or even their own website, shows many cars either not currently on display or no info for some that are. This may well mean it is well worthwhile going again - a lesson that could be learned by other establishments.

More from the Petersen - but occasionally, there I can't identify the cars I snapped! As I have mentioned before on this thread, I'm not too good on Americana, so would appreciate anyone filling in the gaps when I ask.



'Roscoe' Fatty Arbuckle's Renault, in a section showcasing cars with a movie link.
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Plymouth
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This is one with a movie or star link that I haven't identified.
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The glamorous Duesenberg. Always the car that the real stars aspired to!
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A nice feature of the exhibition was the opportunity to clamber into the Ford and have your photograph taken.
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I make no apologies for the 'boring' front three-quarter views, as many shots are purely for personal 'library' interest and are not taken as 'art'.

Paul Wilkinson
07-11-2017, 10:24 PM
"This is one with a movie or star link that I haven't identified."

Thelma and Louise. Here is the poster behind it.

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John McKechnie
07-12-2017, 04:08 AM
The Plymouth......Christine , by Stephen King ?

khyndart in CA
07-12-2017, 04:35 AM
Next to "Herbie" the Volkswagen racing Beetle # 53 from the 1968 movie "The Love Bug."

Roger Dowding
07-12-2017, 05:08 AM
So maybe the Ferrari,is the Magnum PI one .. next to Herbie

John McKechnie
07-12-2017, 05:47 AM
Cant be the Ferrari from Gumball Rally- this still has the rear vision mirror
Also wonder whats the Dukes of Hazard poster doing in the bay next to the Duesi ?

ERC
07-12-2017, 06:51 AM
Yes, the Magnum Ferrari & Herbie.

The Thelma & Louise car (thanks for that) is a Ford Thunderbird, but I hadn't recognized that model Thunderbird. As I said, I'm not so good at American cars, probably because when growing up, apart from the early Corvette, driven by Sir Gawaine Baillie (sp?), then later, the Ford Galaxie and early Mustangs, we never saw many American cars around.

It was many, many years later that I saw a real Cunningham, though I did have the Dinky model.

John, the Dukes poster is probably there as one of their 'rotating' exhibits is from the Dukes.

ERC
07-12-2017, 09:12 PM
I really don't think this needs an explanation, but a valid display car for Hollywood!
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Two or three concept cars - Mercury
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Dodge
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Plymouth
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A car that should have had a lot more success? Toyota 2000GT
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There are several Harley and Indian motorbikes, but I couldn't resist a pic of this one. Note the background...
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John McKechnie
07-13-2017, 01:43 AM
Ray- the Toyota 2000 GT was seen as a convertible- special build- for James Bond movie- You only Live Twice.
If only they had built the topless, it would have been a great seller.

ERC
07-13-2017, 01:45 AM
For GM fans...

"De Alba covered almost every surface of El Rey with a combination of custom candy paint, chrome plating, and metal etching. The geometric design of the paintwork accentuates the lines of the car’s body, and extends into the engine compartment, trunk, and undercarriage. El Rey has been called the “pinnacle of modern lowrider culture,” and it has garnered admiration from communities both in and outside of lowriding. In addition to being named Lowrider of the Year by Lowrider Magazine for three consecutive years (2011-2013), El Rey has won awards at both SEMA and the Grand National Roadster Show."

Yes. Well...


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Whilst some customised cars really appeal, some definitely do not, but those above are shown to illustrate the breadth of current exhibits, but the best is yet to come...

John McKechnie
07-13-2017, 02:06 AM
Ray- nice candy hopper.
anything by Ed Roth here?

ERC
07-13-2017, 02:32 AM
John, I didn't notice anything by Ed Roth.

Drool time for me...


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Great lighting almost throughout make this a real joy taking photographs without any form of flash and with just a compact camera.

Spgeti
07-13-2017, 03:25 AM
Slobber....

ERC
07-13-2017, 08:50 PM
Keep slobbering...



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ERC
07-14-2017, 09:38 PM
Still with the Italians... and a couple to inspire Chaindrive.



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Within the complex, is a design studio which covered the concept drawings through to clay models and there was a bank of PC's, at least one being used by what looked like a mature design student.

The models included clays as well as these two, from Alfa Romeo and a way out Maserati.
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There were also several good displays of a Maserati coming together, culminating in the finished item.
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ERC
07-15-2017, 12:32 AM
Fords



Some just have a stunning, clean, paint job,
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whilst with others, you really have to admire the graphics.
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ERC
07-15-2017, 12:49 AM
A mixed bag.



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ERC
07-16-2017, 01:32 AM
This next set may not be a permanent exhibition, but I'm so glad it was on for our visit. Dan Gurney's AAR Eagles. Many of us can remember the debut of the first Eagle F1 car - and what a stunning car it was in terms of looks and presentation. (It looked even better once the Weslake V12 was ready - car #36 below.) It is still one of my all time favourite single seaters, from any era.


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This was the first time I'd come across an Eagle Formula Ford.
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khyndart in CA
07-16-2017, 05:03 AM
Ray,
I mentioned the Eagle Formula Ford a few moons ago. That is a good looking Formula Ford. What neat photos you took. Thank you.

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?1851-Programs-movies-and-memories-(USA-version-)/page2&highlight=eagle

Ken

seaqnmac27
07-17-2017, 12:03 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4PEjrryqVE

ERC
07-17-2017, 12:16 AM
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ERC
07-17-2017, 12:32 AM
Different takes on alternative power units through the ages.


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McLaren - note the design studio area behind.
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A couple of photographed photographs. Copyright the original photographer of course. The museum is anything but cluttered but the display of some excellent B & W shots down on floor 1 was interesting.



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ERC
07-17-2017, 09:17 PM
One Porsche and three Jaguars. I'm not a huge Porsche fan but occasionally, you see one that really does look impressive.


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The XKSS Jaguar is the ex-Steve McQueen car, originally supplied in white, but McQueen had it resprayed in BRG. I remember so well the photographs of that disasterous Browns Lane fire that wiped out the remaining XKSS Jaguars.

When I sent off to Jaguar for the usual catalogues, just after the E Type's launch, I'm sure they were the ones who sent a two page copy of the reports of the fire. Sadly, a vindictive ex-wife managed to 'lose' that and the wonderful spiral bound Jaguar catalogues, along with a fair bit of my memorabilia, including autographed photographs of Graham Hill and Jackie Stewart.
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khyndart in CA
07-17-2017, 10:55 PM
Geez Ray,
After reading that, I am going to hide my "shoe boxes" away ! (Thanks for the warning. )

Ken H

ERC
07-18-2017, 12:47 AM
Maybe it is time to start shifting my books and memorabilia, as it is not my wife who would dump anything, but when I shuffle off to a waved chequered flag, various children/grandchildren are not likely to understand the difference between memorabilia with a value and junk.

Last sets are from the Bugatti display on the ground floor. The display went way beyond the cars, with examples of furniture and sculpture from the Bugatti family. We tend to think of just Ettore Bugatti, but he wasn't the only talent. His brother Rembrandt was a talented artist and sculptor and Ettore, not having the same talent, turned to engineering instead.



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Not sure exactly what model this is.
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Roger Dowding
07-18-2017, 03:11 AM
Geez Ray,
After reading that, I am going to hide my "shoe boxes" away ! (Thanks for the warning. )

Ken H

Ken H, " Shoe Boxes " Yep be very careful, as have a few treasures including the Spiral Bound English Language Jaguar E Type brochure from the 1962 Geneva Motor Show, when it was launched, my Uncle Ed Dowding [ of NSCC fame ] was living in Geneva at the time, and got it, he knew the BMC and Jaguar guys had a Ford Zodiac at the time and in 1970 bought the P6 3500 Rover that has been posted on TRS in a Gymkhana, with much dust and oversteer..

ERC
07-18-2017, 09:24 PM
This lovely lady would never be vindictive and destroy my treasures!

Standing beside the Type41 (Royale) just to show its size. It always amazes me that Ettore was so critical of Bentleys, calling them 'lorries', when many Bugattis weren't exactly small lightweights - though granted, Ettore's lorries weren't built for racing!


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ERC
07-18-2017, 09:33 PM
Incidentally, the café on site (Dragos) is more of a restaurant, than café, so don't expect to be able to get a sandwich and a cuppa. Having said that, our pasta dishes were the same price as the Marriott's chicken or turkey sandwiches, at $17 each before tax. Seen in the background of this first pic. It also seem to be popular with non-museum visitors and at lunchtime, was just about full.



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I am pretty sure that any visit to this Hollywood museum is going to be worthwhile, even if some of the exhibits do change. If you Google a search of the Petersen vault, you'll note that when one reporter visited and was allowed to take photographs, that many of the cars shown in the vault then, are now on display.

I believe that some of the exhibits we saw are private collections on loan - which is a great way to keep refreshing any museum.

That was the last batch from this museum and also from this trip. Next year's trip is looking decidedly bleak in terms of overseas car stuff... For 2019, we may well be in Europe again and I'll just have to see what I can fit in, but rest assured, I'll be looking for something.

ERC
07-21-2017, 01:42 AM
Back to recent (or fairly recent) local pics. Legends meeting back in March. I have only just got around to sorting them.

Capris now with V8s.


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ERC
07-21-2017, 08:58 PM
Fords without V8s.



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ERC
07-21-2017, 09:41 PM
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ERC
07-22-2017, 12:44 AM
Chris Watson's McLaren Gardos
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Kerry McIntosh, Begg FM2
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James Watson, Swift DB4. Very impressed with the way he has got to grips with this car in terms of set up and also the way he drives.
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Trying to find the manufacturing source for some of the Formula First cars is proving tricky. The names may be in the programme, but sometimes, even the internet doesn't bring up the information I need to be able to file them properly.

That also raises issues as to several makes and models? Where for example do you place Brabhams or McLarens? I have them down as UK. Cars such as Bucklers can be tricky and Cobra Replicas are a real nightmare. An Almac Cobra is easy enough, but of all the Cobra replicas there are around, guessing who actually produced each one isn't so easy.

A nose-less Symon - driven by Chris Symon, so I am presuming this is NZ made!
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Billy Fraser, Sabre Sabre... (Is that a double edged sword?) Most of the Formula First cars don't have a manufacturing date in the programme.
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Gary Rush - Swift DB4
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ERC
07-22-2017, 09:49 PM
More from the March Legends meeting. I'll get back to scanning from the archives once I am up to date with the filing of the current stuff.



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ERC
07-22-2017, 10:22 PM
MG (and Rover) - might not be as dominant in terms of numbers as they once were but thankfully, there are still those willing to use the cars rather than cherish them as trailer queens as values rise.

The Rover Tomcat is no longer able to be brought into NZ as a road car as it doesn't now meet NZ's crumple zone regulations. Strange that NZ with no car manufacturing industry feels that it has a better grasp on car safety than the manufacturers. No TVR's allowed in either. Shame.

Pity they don't apply the same rigid examination to the driving standards... Here endeth today's sermon.



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Unlike most of the other MGB V8s racing today, this is a genuine factory model, previously run by Harley Norager and now going very well after an extensive engine rebuild, with Dave Mallin at the tiller.44583

The Forsyth MG formerly run in the GT series, is gradually being brought back to a less radical look. The rear wing has gone and Todd is now working on getting new rear guards manufactured. Critics may object to the lack of purity and the time taken to bring it into line, but once again, the ERC Series has adopted the approach that we do need cars on track and as Todd is a more than competent driver, far better to have it on track than parked in a garage.
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ERC
07-23-2017, 01:25 AM
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The drifters or others at play on the small club track whilst a race meeting is on the national track, was always in the original plans for Hampton Downs. I hope no-one ever forgets that it was the late Geoff Manning, Chris Watson and Tony Roberts who did the groundwork of this whole complex and that Tony Quinn's contribution has mainly been to get the works finished.

I have no idea what the car is! (A bit of Googling and a pic shows it to be a NIssan Silvia...)
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The modern sports cars are really sports racing cars and without looking at the programme, I'm afraid I haven't really worked out which is which! This is a Juno.
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Roger Dowding
07-23-2017, 03:43 AM
MG (and Rover) - might not be as dominant in terms of numbers as they once were but thankfully, there are still those willing to use the cars rather than cherish them as trailer queens as values rise.

The Rover Tomcat is no longer able to be brought into NZ as a road car as it doesn't now meet NZ's crumple zone regulations. Strange that NZ with no car manufacturing industry feels that it has a better grasp on car safety than the manufacturers. No TVR's allowed in either. Shame.

Pity they don't apply the same rigid examination to the driving standards... Here endeth today's sermon.



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Unlike most of the other MGB V8s racing today, this is a genuine factory model, previously run by Harley Norager and now going very well after an extensive engine rebuild, with Dave Mallin at the tiller.44583

The Forsyth MG formerly run in the GT series, is gradually being brought back to a less radical look. The rear wing has gone and Todd is now working on getting new rear guards manufactured. Critics may object to the lack of purity and the time taken to bring it into line, but once again, the ERC Series has adopted the approach that we do need cars on track and as Todd is a more than competent driver, far better to have it on track than parked in a garage.
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Enjoyed the Sermon, Had a Rover 216i Cabriolet around the year 2000, and it is Sunday .. too !!

ERC
07-23-2017, 09:46 PM
Wife had a Rover 214 Cabriolet and it knocked spots off the very early Toyota MR2 (1500cc, not 1600TC) on all counts, especially economy. I considered a Tomcat at one stage, but ended up with a Rover 420Gsi which worked extremely well. Both Rovers were totally trouble free and rust free, which is more than could be said for the MR2, which was starting to show signs of rust.

Her number plate was originally purchased for the MR2 and has nothing to do with either of us having a sex change!



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ERC
07-24-2017, 09:08 PM
Back to track cars...



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Paul Halford's collection has some very rare Italian machinery, but also includes a couple of Porsches.
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One of the sport's most hard working supporters, Wendy Metcalfe. When not driving, or getting involved in the ever growing group of 'Women in Motorsport', will be around either in Race Control or as a CRO.
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This one is a Reynard
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John Hudson, not racing his BMW 2002 for a change. One of the drivers now in ERC who was racing before I arrived in NZ. John also gets a regular mention in one of the UK's car magazines, helping out the Brit journalist with his BMW and is also a regular helper, preparing cars for Goodwood.

John also purchased my reconditioned, but unbuilt 998cc Mini engine to clear a little bit of shelf space in my garage.
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ERC
07-24-2017, 09:24 PM
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Not quite what it seems and this one has slipped through the ERC's normal criteria, so strictly speaking shouldn't be running. Once again, probably better out on track than limited to Leadfoot and maybe just Targa events.
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Bryce Platt is another driver with a long saloon racing history in NZ and has also often driven the Rally NZ 0 or 00 car.
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Jason Nicholl has purchased the ex-Brian Yates Porsche to add to his collection of Porsche race cars.
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Nemesis. I'll have to try and commit these cars to memory otherwise I'm destined to need the programme every time.
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ERC
07-25-2017, 09:11 PM
Spent half the afternoon trying to sort out scanner issues, whilst 'revisiting' Goodwood 2000, but in the meantime, just a few more from Legends.



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ERC
07-25-2017, 09:13 PM
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ERC
07-26-2017, 02:26 AM
Goodwood Revival September 2000.



Morgan SLR
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Triumph SLR...
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ERC
07-26-2017, 09:05 PM
Friday was really wet - paddock shots mainly Friday.


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Saturday, we only managed half a day (travelling with my wife, I had to respect that she shouldn't suffer, hence my solo trip in 2016) and the wind was biting!

ERC
07-27-2017, 01:29 AM
For Spgeti...


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Allan
07-27-2017, 04:05 AM
I enjoy them too Ray as I like Spgeti have a long association with things Italian.

Spgeti
07-27-2017, 04:28 AM
I have really enjoyed the sports car group you have put up as well as those 2 very rare Alfa's.

Thanks Ray,

Cheers
Bruce

ERC
07-27-2017, 09:40 PM
More for the red enthusiasts!



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Even Goodwood can make spelling mistakes...
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ERC
07-28-2017, 08:00 PM
Picture quality varies a wee bit as I was using two different cameras, not two different types of film - and the scanner is causing me grief.


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ERC
07-28-2017, 09:58 PM
Scanner is playing up again... Now it won't focus properly. (Reloaded 2 days later...)



The previous two pictures of the Triumph, I didn't give it the nickname it acquired, when peering under the bonnet. Journalists were very quick to nickname this twin cam Triumph "Sabrina". Do a Google search for Sabrina 1964.
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This car is also a Triumph, but note the SLR, same as the Morgan SLR. Just to confuse matters, there was a Morgan SLR carrying #27 as well...
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Fifty years of HWM - one of Goodwood's strengths is the ability to recognise these anniversaries and also get enough support to create a good display, on or off the track.
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I think it might have been Gerry Marshall in this Austin Healey.
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ERC
07-30-2017, 02:31 AM
Scanner back to normal, but had to rescan several that initially came out fuzzy, when I knew the negatives were sharp.



Flat cap and pipe - has to be an MG...
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Morgan SLRs. There were 3 Morgan SLR's built. They were SLR bodies on Morgan chassis and there was one SLR body built on a TR4 chassis.
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Looks like a flat tyre for the Austin Healey. Almost TVR-like from this angle.
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ERC
07-30-2017, 10:51 PM
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ERC
07-31-2017, 01:23 AM
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I may have told this story before, but the Tamiya model of this very car has the build sheet down as red upholstery. In the metal (or leather) the real colour is blue. I was so annoyed I sold off my made up model on Trademe! Fortunately I still have two unmade kits of this competition version and one of the road version. The road wheels on the model need to be silver, not chrome too...

For those who like construction kits, the Tamiya Jaguar MkII ranks at the very top of my list - though you do need patience, a pair of tweezers and a good pair of glasses for the 15 transfer dashboard.
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ERC
07-31-2017, 03:02 AM
Still Goodwood 2000. This is pre digital so not as many as I would have taken today, but still a fair few 'in the bag'. The difference is that today I have to scan each old image to save it, whereas with digital, it is a case of discarding!



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He was no longer in Dire Straits... Long time Maserati 300S owner, Mark Knopfler. By coincidence, Sultan's of Swing is on the radio right now! He also recorded a radio programme with Chris Barber's Jazz band earlier in 2000, which I enjoy listening to, as someone in the UK recorded it for me.
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ERC
08-01-2017, 01:06 AM
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If there is ever a V16 BRM running, (a bucket list car to see and hear), take a photograph the first time it goes past, as you might not see it again!
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It was Tony Vandervell's frustration with the above BRM V16 project, that led him down the path of the Thin Wall Special and then on to the Vanwall. As mentioned previously, had he spent more effort on the rear engine Vanwall instead of clinging to the by then, outdated front engined cars, history might have been so different.
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Regardless of the crowds, the Brits always seem to be aware and considerate of those taking photographs. Now everyone and his dog has a cellphone/camera, much of that consideration has evaporated and some of these modern snappers seem to take forever to get their pic.

If there is one piece of advice I'd offer it would be to arrive as soon as the gates open - or earlier now that there is a whole area just outside the track, full of great food stalls. The huge crowds come in steadily throughout the day.
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ERC
08-01-2017, 02:21 AM
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ERC
08-01-2017, 09:26 PM
From an earlier scanned film. It wouldn't be Goodwood without some rain... This was Friday practice/qualifying. We got soaked and I had to buy either new shoes or trousers before we checked into our accommodation at Midhurst that night. My wife always patiently stands by me but I'd rather now go to events on my own, as it is not really fair on her.


OSCA
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Lancia re-creation for recreation...
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ERC
08-01-2017, 10:22 PM
More from HWM


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From the negative, but before scanning, this almost looked like the V16 BRM! Should'a gone to Spec Savers.
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ERC
08-02-2017, 02:56 AM
Still back in the year 2000. Can't believe it is already 17 years ago!


LDS Alfa - though I initially labelled it as a Cooper!
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Bernie Ecclestone bought Connaught...
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One of the other celebrations was for the late Jim Clark. When I left my second job, the lads presented me with a very good model kit of this Indy Lotus.
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ERC
08-02-2017, 10:06 PM
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CUT7 without the pale blue paint.
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The pre 66 car park is always well worth a visit, but we scuttled past. Note the AC Greyhound behind the HRG.
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ERC
08-02-2017, 10:09 PM
I'm afraid it all gets a bit samey from now on with many of the remaining shots from the same viewpoint.



In the correct order - R1A
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R4D
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R5B - 'Remus' taken during the Jim Clark tribute, with Ludovic Lindasy at the wheel.
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R12B. Note the different shade of yellow.
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E Type ERA, GP1 with Duncan Ricketts, who has now got this car going very well - except at Goodwood 2016... The car has been rebuilt as the original was badly damaged back in about 1950.
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ERC
08-03-2017, 09:24 PM
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ERC
08-03-2017, 09:44 PM
Donington 1939 - and one of my favourites of Dad's photographs. Not sure if it is the same car below in 2000 - rear view mirror is definitely different. Driver seems to be sitting a lot lower too. Aren't we lucky? Soccer players or rugby players can't really replay or recreate the past glories, but we can still see (and hear) the cars that thrilled our fathers.
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Donington Museum Alta GP1, taken in 2002. Is it still there or has that also disappeared?
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As mentioned at least once before, Cooper Bristols are so photogenic as you can really see the drivers working. Not like the modern F1 cars that is for sure.
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Roddy MacPherson - who else could it be!
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ERC
08-04-2017, 10:31 PM
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The Jim Clark tribute
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Donington Museum 2002. I prefer the Mk2 V16 as it has a bit more character.
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ERC
08-05-2017, 10:04 PM
I hate scanning.... So slow, so boring, so don't be surprised if I take a break in a day or two!

Just a reminder that these pics of the Donington Museum were taken July 2002 and as I have alluded to several times before, two of the six halls are now taken up by Kevin's WWII military collection, so 4 halls of cars - and almost half of those exhibits are McLarens and Williams - or were. I'm not sure whether or not all the Williams cars are there now, as they too have set up their own historic section.

If anyone has visited in recent times or intends to visit, a list of current exhibits would be most useful, even though some may be rotated, I don't believe there are anywhere near as many there now as there used to be. Donington itself is very coy about what is still there and they are not at all helpful.



At Donington, there are two statues out front. The two drivers Tom Wheatcroft obviously rated higher than any other. Tazio Nuvolari being one, Ayrton Senna the other. This small display was some years before the statues were commissioned, but note the Auto Union pic to the rear - Dad's photograph (shown on here before) at the same meeting follows. Note the Ferrari badge on the Alfa.
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ERC
08-06-2017, 12:31 AM
ERA E Type, GP2. (I showed GP1 a couple of posts ago) and they were the only 2 E Types built.
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The 4WD McLaren. I believe that one local enthusiast was keen to purchase this car and bring it back to NZ.
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The McLaren hall - which is just a bit too samey for me.
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ERC
08-07-2017, 03:25 AM
Ellerslie 2002 - I believe the theme was 'Race'



The ERC group - but others were scattered over other stands. Stuart's white Midget is currently being fettled and hopefully will return to the track. I think we need more of these 1300cc sports cars out there racing.
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More ERC competitors
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Yes, more ERC competitors. Why are we not seeing these smaller engined Triumphs around on the tracks? Has every one graduated to V8 Perana type Capris? We had three Spitfires running back then and three MG Midgets.
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The Andy Turpin Jaguar now owned by Derek Moore. Rob's XJ6 behind.
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Alan Hyndman
08-07-2017, 12:01 PM
Yes, more ERC competitors. Why are we not seeing these smaller engined Triumphs around on the tracks? Has every one graduated to V8 Perana type Capris? We had three Spitfires running back then and three MG Midgets.
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Hi Ray, The impression I got was that the Auckland based Spitfires disappeared because they were pretty much shunned. That and they got tired of 3 races at a two day meeting. Gary's car above was sold to a guy in Palmerston North who appears to have pulled it apart to "fix" it and it's not reappeared since. Ian Anderson still has his yellow Spitfire 1500 but has retired from racing. The third Spit is either mine (which I still have and it still runs when the Triford is waiting on suppliers to deliver) or Malcolm Protheroe's (I suspect he still has his too, but last I heard his interests were directed elsewhere).
Perana replicas at least look better filling grids than the fibreglass Cobra replicas that used to turn up en masse.

ERC
08-07-2017, 09:50 PM
Not sure about the 'shunned'! We actually waived Gary's entry fee at one meeting when he elected to go to full time study and also his annual registration fee.

No fibreglass Cobra replicas ever ran with ERC.

The 3 races over two days is indeed an issue for some people, but the logistics are quite simple. Run a 1 day meeting, 6 classes. One practice and 3 races. Run a 2 day meeting, 12 classes, 1 practice and 1 race followed by 2 races on day 2.

Having polled our drivers several times, there are as many who prefer a 1 day meeting as a 2 day meeting, so the series has always had a mix. From a personal perspective, in a 1 day meeting, life was somewhat frenetic, trying to run my own car for 4 sessions and also calculate/publish the handicaps not for 1 grid, but for 2!



Ted Rollason's gorgeous E Type. He later ran it in Targa with his buddy, the late Geoff Manning.
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Richard McCarthy and the immaculate Lotus 47.
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Pukekohe, March 30/31 2002.
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This is the very TR6 that eventually suffered a metal failure (stub axle?) entering the 'Mountain' and landed on its roof and where I was just a second behind. I topped and tailed my car against the concrete barriers on the inside as there was nowhere to go whilst the TR6 was spinning on its roof, in the middle of the track, eventually ending up on the outside. Such is motor racing - and my car still has some of the scars from that incident and has never looked immaculate since.

One of the reasons I'm not keen on concrete barriers too close to the racing line and with no escape route. No excuse on a full time race track.
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seaqnmac27
08-08-2017, 02:02 AM
From an earlier scanned film. It wouldn't be Goodwood without some rain... This was Friday practice/qualifying. We got soaked and I had to buy either new shoes or trousers before we checked into our accommodation at Midhurst that night. My wife always patiently stands by me but I'd rather now go to events on my own, as it is not really fair on her.


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Lancia re-creation for recreation...
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Thank you Ray,can I just say how beautiful the Scarab and Scirocco are!

Alan Hyndman
08-08-2017, 05:37 AM
[QUOTE=ERC;60589]Not sure about the 'shunned'! We actually waived Gary's entry fee at one meeting when he elected to go to full time study and also his annual registration fee.

No fibreglass Cobra replicas ever ran with ERC.

The 3 races over two days is indeed an issue for some people, but the logistics are quite simple. Run a 1 day meeting, 6 classes. One practice and 3 races. Run a 2 day meeting, 12 classes, 1 practice and 1 race followed by 2 races on day 2.

Having polled our drivers several times, there are as many who prefer a 1 day meeting as a 2 day meeting, so the series has always had a mix. From a personal perspective, in a 1 day meeting, life was somewhat frenetic, trying to run my own car for 4 sessions and also calculate/publish the handicaps not for 1 grid, but for 2!
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Hi Ray,

Sorry - I should have said it wasn't the ERC/Leisuretime series that they had issues with! It was other events (yeah, I know this sounds like a cop out).

Regarding the TR6 axle failure, it's a known issue if you've hung around Triumphs long enough. The problem seems to lie in the keyway that is at the end of many Triumph axles (those with trailing arm IRS or with swing axles). Cracks develop from the corners at the inner end of the keyway and work around the axle until it weakens enough to snap. New axles are available and racers in the USA have come up with outer solutions too.

Alan.
PS - I'm enjoying the photos too.

ERC
08-08-2017, 08:48 AM
Agree. the Scarab, Scirocco and the earlier Eagle pics are all beautifully presented cars and it is all too easy to overlook the USA representation in F1 which added variety and some much needed colour, before the advertising swamped any vestige of National colours.

I'm no expert on Triumphs (or any other car for that matter) but I was marshalling at Pukekohe when Chris Watson's TR5 did a barrel roll just after I'd put the camera down... (Chris wasn't driving) and I'm not sure what caused his take off at Whenuapai in the TR7V8 either.

ERC
08-09-2017, 12:53 AM
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Thanks to the Leisuretime sponsor, Geoff Bonham (seated), I was invited to join him on a visit to the late John Fernyhough's private collection of British cars, on Manukau Rd. We were allowed to sit in the cars and it was on this visit, that I was able to establish that some of my favourite cars were not built to accommodate six-footers!
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I believe the exhibits were sold off after John's passing which is a shame, as there were some interesting cars in there, whilst not rare in the true sense, there were examples of cars I have never seen elsewhere in NZ.

ERC
08-09-2017, 09:44 PM
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Targa 2005 - probably the first appearance of Neil Tolich's Perana. Not the best of photographs, but this is the last but one negative film I ever took. By this time, I had a compact Digital camera (from May 2004) but hadn't progressed to a DSLR.
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John McKechnie
08-09-2017, 10:18 PM
Ray- whose is the Stag ?

ERC
08-09-2017, 10:22 PM
Not at all sure John, but I think it was a regular Targa competitor at the time (2005)

First 4 from 2002


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Targa 2005 again
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Jo Hill's controversial Herald V8. This spectacularly driven Herald V8 (Rover V8 power) was hugely popular on Targa and as at that stage, there was very little opportunity to compete with this sort of car for the rest of the year, Jo asked if he could run with ERC.

I rewrote the rules to accommodate the car as I considered it a period car with an appropriate period engine (from the same group - BL), therefore COULD have been built in period.

In period it was obviously OK to put a Corvette engine into a Ford Zephyr and everyone clapped their hands with glee.

For some reason, this car divided attitudes like no other. It led to a major split between the Series and those race organisers who demanded each car had a CoD - which obviously it wouldn't get. We stood by our stance that it should be allowed to run and when Chris & I offered our version of T & C rules, we left a section open precisely for this type of car. As you all know, this never happened. More's the pity.

To this day, you can't build a period saloon special and get it accepted. Even though the ERC rules were rewritten to accept this type of car, contrary to the doomsayers, the series was never overrun by cars of this type and even Jo didn't run with us, as I believe he moved to Australia. Our rules allowed a maximum of 5 repowered cars per season, but to date, 12 years later, the number of cars accepted on application = 0.

You can of course stuff a Ford V8 into a 1300cc Capri and call it a Perana...

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John McKechnie
08-10-2017, 12:13 AM
And of course never forget the current trend of V12 Jags into Morris Minors.......now where shall we put them ?
Also on trademe there is a Jag 4.2 powering a Tank- great for CMC.....LOL

Alan Hyndman
08-10-2017, 10:25 AM
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David Nathan owned this Stag at the time - and probably still does, although Carjam suggests it's not been road legal since 2008. When it was built, the engine reportedly was out to 3.2L and had a steel crankshaft amongst other fruity bits.

ERC
08-10-2017, 09:55 PM
Skipping around a bit as I am uploading stuff that may have been scanned a few days ago and has been partially sorted before final filing.

Donington Museum 2002. Some of the cars may well have been shown on this thread before, but from earlier or later visits.


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The display of earlier McLarens is interesting but the later cars are too similar other than to a real McLaren enthusiast. The display ranges from F2 to F1 but includes the 4WD car as posted before.

Back there in 4th position looks like the Patsy Burt hillclimb car. Some of the cars on display were on loan and many of those were removed when Tom died and the finances took a dive, even though the museum was a separate entity to the track.
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ERC
08-11-2017, 12:35 AM
Back to 2005 - and into 2006


Mike John instigated the 'Living Legends', with drivers reunited with their cars (or similar cars), with a race meeting combined with Targa at Pukekohe. A very successful day in terms of spectator numbers.
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Chelsea Hillclimb November 2005
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Clive Taylor - and I'm guessing this was January 2006 at Pukekohe.
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ERC
08-11-2017, 09:34 PM
The first B & W pics are from the first two films I ever took, but this was before I borrowed Dad's Leica on a regular basis.
Bear in mind it wasn't until about 1980 that I even had access to a long lens (and that wasn't very long!) and about 1982 before I acquired my first SLR, so the quality isn't anywhere near as good as I would have liked.



1964 - Lotus Elite. I must tot up just now many pics I have of Lotus Elites...
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Fast forward to May 1966, Mallory Park.
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Then to May 1974.
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ERC
08-12-2017, 02:09 AM
Still a mix from old negatives, before I return to that massive pile of slides!


1974 continued. Another Marcos Mantis...
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I have these down as May but they could even be June, but I haven't fished out a race programme to check.
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Michael Clark
08-12-2017, 05:59 AM
A pedant could have a field day with those description boards in front of the cars at Donington...

khyndart in CA
08-12-2017, 09:23 PM
Ray,
I always enjoy all your photos and appreciate all the effort you must go through to present them.
The Mallory Park photos bring back memories for me but those photos got left behind when I left London in 1973.
Your photos of the 1966 Grovewood Trophy Race in May show at first: David Hobbs # 2 leading Brian Redman # 3 in their Lola T70 Mk2s ahead of eventual winner Denny Hulme in the white (Sid Taylor Racing) Lola T70 Mk 2 around Shaws Hairpin. (A popular viewing spot )
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Your other photo at the same corner shows: # 12 Peter Sutcliffe who came 2nd in his Ford GT40 after Hobbs and Redman retired, followed by David Piper in his Ferrari 250 LM # 16, then the # 6 McLaren Elva Mk2 of David Prophet and the # 15 Ford GT 40 of Eric Lidell.
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(Thanks again Ray, I hope you don't mind me butting in. Ken H )

ERC
08-12-2017, 09:48 PM
Glad it brought back memories Ken! As mentioned earlier, my ex managed to 'lose' much of my precious stuff - including the prints from those days - when the household stuff arrived and she arrived, 9 months after I'd left. Luckily, I had a large box of stuff shipped as I left and that included the negatives and slides.

When you look at the above pics, it is hard to accept that in 1966, a tiny track (1.35 miles long) was able to attract no less than three Ford GT40s plus the Lolas, McLarens and David Piper's Ferrari!

In catch up mode, scanning various films where odd ones may have been scanned some time ago.


Yup, another Lotus Elite! Taken at Wollaton Park, probably around May/June 1979
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I think this is from 2002 but I'm not sure what car! Someone will know.
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On to January 2006.
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Paul Forsyth's MG BV8 in GT series guise. Not the sharpest of pics, but it shows the full width wheels filling the bodywork.
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I think this may well be the last ever weekend of using film. The Aussie V8 meeting March 2006. Thanks again to our Leisuretime sponsor, I was able to enjoy the hospitality of Tasman Motorsport on the Saturday.
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ERC
08-13-2017, 01:15 AM
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If it hadn't been for the Corporate view, up high, I doubt I would have got many decent pics...

Oldfart
08-13-2017, 11:00 AM
Ray, that corner of Mallory has barely changed, good spot for the photos. When the camera battery has charged I will post some of the VSCC meeting yesterday. A full field of 500s, the fabulous Aero engined cars.... it was sensory overload!

ERC
08-14-2017, 01:38 AM
Yup. It was the closest I could get to the track and with no long lens, many of my pics have to be severely cropped. Once free of parental shackles (dad borrowed a firm's car now and again) and/or public transport, I used to get there early, do the paddock then park myself at the hairpin for the rest of the day. Oh how I wish I had today's long lens and DSLR back then... but I have said that before!


I have no idea where or why there is a green stripe across these negs. That darned Russian camera (Kiev) wasn't exactly 100% reliable. (1979)
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1982

Remember we had a garage 2 doors way ('Chick' Wheelhouse) and he expanded to more modern premises in Old Basford, with the opening performed by Lewis Collins. Sadly, not a very sharp pic... Not at all professional quality.
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Out back was this Bitter.
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The Nottingham Sports Car Club ran a training day at Curborough sprint track March 1982 and part of the training was for flag marshals and St Johns Ambulance staff, which in the UK is 100% volunteers. Most of the younger ones were fairly new to dealing with seatbelts of any sort and here, NSCC Chief Flag Marshal Mike Mayfield, shows the full harness belts and probably the kill switch fitted to John Stonard's Piranha AFTER he had been extracted by the more experienced personnel!
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ERC
08-14-2017, 09:55 PM
Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
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The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
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Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
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ERC
08-15-2017, 04:23 AM
Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas


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ERC
08-16-2017, 02:33 AM
Same meet as above. Round 7 of the Tricentrol British Saloon Car Championship.


Jeff Allam Sanyo Rover V8
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Steve Soper leads Alan Curnow and Richard Longman in 1300cc Austin Metros. (Not turbos...)
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Duckhams and Outspan Minis
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A rare outing (display only) for the Rover-BRM
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Michael Clark
08-16-2017, 09:10 AM
The next season Steve Soper went from Metro to Rover Vitesse and was instantly the man to beat

seaqnmac27
08-16-2017, 09:55 PM
Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas


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#7 is Stefan Bellof in the Maurer?

Steve Holmes
08-16-2017, 10:20 PM
Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
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The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
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Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
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Ray, was that a one make series for Renault 5s? They look like the same versions that were rallied.

khyndart in CA
08-16-2017, 10:45 PM
It is ironic that Stefan Bellof crashed his # 7 Maurer at Eau Rouge corner at Spa in 1982 at almost exactly the same spot where he died 3 years later in 1985 after colliding with Jackie Ickx while racing in a Porsche 956.
He was one of the most promising driver's of his day but many felt he often drove over the limit as may have happened here.
Ray, that is a neat photo you took of him.
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Spa. 1982 at Eau Rouge Corner.


(Ken H)

ERC
08-17-2017, 01:58 AM
Correct Ken. The #7 is Bellof (correct spelling) in the Maurer. (If on Windows, run your mouse across the pic and it should show.) I have never been much of a single seater fan from that era and find it frustrating that I often have to do some research to find out where some of the cars were manufactured. I keep a separate file block for British so non-British race cars are just filed as not-British. Road cars by country.

Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.

ERC
08-17-2017, 04:32 AM
Back to the more mundane Ellerslie Concours of 1983 and 1984.


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1984
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And the end of the day at Whenuapai 1984, the meeting I missed thanks to family commitments - though it was my birthday.
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I think this is a Riley, but I have been wrong before. Many, many times.
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ERC
08-18-2017, 02:09 AM
More from Whenuapai - end of the day course runs 1984.



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Some say there are more Ferraris per capita in NZ than any other country...
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Steve Holmes
08-18-2017, 05:27 AM
Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.

Thanks Ray, they sure are neat little cars. As far as one-make classes go, thats one of the more interesting I've seen. Was it a French series that had a round in the UK, or a British series?

ERC
08-18-2017, 10:33 PM
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Yes, still at Whenuapai 1984. The car must have run as it has the TACCOC race numbers. Pity I missed it - and the ERA running.
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On to December 1984 at Pukekohe. Holden, not BMW as per the original label...
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John McKechnie
08-19-2017, 12:30 AM
Ray,-#1652
thank you for posting such a neat picture of the Sports Sedan Association early days from 1984.
That banner still exists and we had it at Hampton Downs January last year.
And the Marina and Graeme still going strong 33 years later........................
Keep up the great work ,you Historian you.

ERC
08-19-2017, 02:37 AM
Thanks John. I'm absolutely thrilled that the time and effort taken to scan and publish is appreciated by what appears to be a fairly wide audience of enthusiasts, who pop into this site and this thread on a regular basis. Pity it takes about 2 or 3 minutes to scan each single negative, so a set of 8 often takes over 20 minutes - then the scanner throws a wobbly and doesn't scan one or two in focus, so they have to be redone anyway - or ignored and deleted.

More to the point and your comment about 'Historian' struck a nerve - though I don't put myself in the same category as Michael!

After a recent health issue, we attended an 'Advanced Care Planning' session at North Shore Hospital last week (Google it...) and I realised that if I were to keel over tomorrow, there would be a whole heap of stuff for the surviving family members to deal with.

A fair bit of that would relate to disposing of what I have accumulated over the years, ranging from prewar race programmes to modern race programmes, models - die cast and slot cars - most in mint condition and boxed, car and motorsport memorabilia, 1000's of car magazines, books (some of them now quite valuable), 1,000+ CDs and old LP records, a garage and an office full of stuff. Whilst the wardrobe could be emptied in minutes, to the benefit of a charity shop, I'd hate it if all the other stuff just ended up in a skip!

Filling in the ACP template - or my version of it, I have to make some serious decisions and there is no time like the present, so if anyone is interested in acquiring the UK 'Classic & Thoroughbred' magazine right from when it started in 1973, to the middle of 2015 for a fair price, (only a few issues are missing, usually thanks to Gordon & Gotch, the local wholesalers stuffing up!) PM me.

Chaindrive might also be interested in a box of the old UK 'Model Cars' magazines and also 'Miniature Auto' many of which contain car plan drawings and also cover slot cars of the era. I think that a partial magazine clearout has to be the place to start as it occupies the most space. There are also several years' worth of NZ Classic Car magazine (up to the middle of 2015) and the monthly MGCC MaG for MG enthusiasts. The MG MaGs are free to anyone who wants them.

That will still leave a massive pile of random magazines, local and UK, and even the odd rarity and collectible...

All magazines are in 5 ream A4 paper boxes.

I still have the Octane magazine and Classic & Sportscar, plus Practical Classics each month on subscription (though I am almost a year behind reading them, thanks to the annual cruising addiction...), I wouldn't be averse to selling off older issues.

chaindrive
08-19-2017, 03:38 AM
+Ray, Thank you for the thought. Your pics are keeping me out of the home for the bewildered!
Tony (chaindrive)

khyndart in CA
08-19-2017, 03:43 AM
Ray,
Just remember two things ; # 1, Don't EVER leave us.
# 2, I will never be able to visit you as I would never make it out of your garage or I'd go broke if I did !
You have done this site a wonderful deed with all your contributions and may it continue for a long long time.
Thank you.
Ken Hyndman

ERC
08-19-2017, 09:17 PM
Thanks guys. I'm genuinely touched. I'll be battling on with the older stuff for a while yet (still on negative film - more slides to be done) but Laguna Seca is on my new bucket list.


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ERC
08-20-2017, 12:22 AM
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Far more interesting than today's tightly regulated almost identical under the bonnet offerings...

Michael Clark
08-20-2017, 07:46 AM
Those early days of Group A were great weren't they?

Falcons, Mustangs, Commodores, 635CSIs, Vitesses, Volvos etc. - Ray these photos are like turning on a tap in the memory bank...

ERC
08-21-2017, 02:07 AM
Totally agree Michael. Pity that MSNZ thought that tier 1 with a tiny grid of almost identical V8's and a plethora of one make/model series was the way to go. Just look at the huge crowds at Pukekohe for the Nissan Mobil and the Benson & Hedges meetings.

The December 1984 then January 1985 meets.


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Apologies if any have been on here before, but some may have been re-scanned.

Roger Dowding
08-21-2017, 04:32 AM
ERC, great pics, does the Allard still belong to Rob Boult ??

Here it is at Dunedin in 1984 - Otago Daily Times photo - which I bought when down there in '84

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BMCBOY
08-21-2017, 10:29 AM
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ERC
08-21-2017, 10:05 PM
I never knew him, but what talent. Ferris de Joux's creations impressed me so in addition to the 1984 and 1985 Ellerslie shots, plus Whenuapai 1985, a couple of later pics.


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ERC
08-21-2017, 10:11 PM
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Amazing what or who pops up in these pics. The late Geoff Manning relaxing with a coffee.
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Scanner playing up again and not focussing properly at times...
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ERC
08-22-2017, 03:49 AM
Note my much loved Allegro Equipe - after a respray thanks to shipping damage, but before the side stripes were applied. Little did I know that 19 years later, I too would also be an MG Magnette owner.
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Maybe I was so excited after the leisurely 1985 Ellerslie Concours, that I couldn't hold the camera still at Whenuapai...
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If anyone has an email contact for historian, Doug Nye, could they please PM me? Meanwhile, have a look at this link if you remember the all conquering 'Sharknose' Ferrari.

https://www.goodwood.com/grrc/columnists/doug-nye/2017/8/Doug-Nye-The-rebirth-of-the-Ferrari-Sharknoses/

ERC
08-22-2017, 09:33 PM
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khyndart in CA
08-22-2017, 10:48 PM
Ray,
I tried to PM you. Hope it comes through ok.
Ken.

ERC
08-23-2017, 09:15 AM
Thanks Ken and the other response re Doug Nye.

Just had a fright. Changed my email address on here and without checking my email, went straight in and couldn't post or see the pics! Sent an email to Steve, but then managed to confirm/verify, so all is well again. Sorry Steve.

I'm a bit ahead now with scanning and behind with uploading, but don't really want to upload too many in one go.

ERC
08-24-2017, 02:01 AM
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This negative was badly damaged, hence the weird crop. You'll notice the discolouration around the driver's elbow.
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I see this was originally labelled Lotus, but I'll need to fish out the race programme - if I have one.
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Not just a concours show pony (see #1664).
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Paul Wilkinson
08-24-2017, 03:12 AM
I see this was originally labelled Lotus, but I'll need to fish out the race programme - if I have one.

It's an early iteration of the Bainbridge Lotus Seven. Currently for sale as a roller on Trademe funnily enough....

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/lotus/auction-1312165591.htm

John McKechnie
08-24-2017, 03:16 AM
Great pix of the Daimler Darts, shame they dont appear on the tracks now- like E-Types, I remember Stewart Martels gold roadster.

ERC
08-24-2017, 10:27 AM
Yes, love the Daimler Darts (or SP250's... Dodge had the Dart name, so Daimler had to back off).

Red one above is Rob Douglas who Targa'd and raced the dark green Morgan V8.

When I first came to NZ January 1983, after a month or so, a Daimler SP250 appeared in the staff car park. The owner was our new Planning Manager who was at the next desk to me - and that was my introduction to Tony Roberts! I think that must make Tony the NZ motorsport person I have known the longest.

Stewart Martel ran the E Type at Leadfoot.

ERC
08-25-2017, 12:51 AM
I'm not even trying to shuffle these pics around to make better variety, so as taken and in film negative order. The classes I never covered would have been when I was actively flagging as opposed to being on standby. Happy days!



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ERC
08-26-2017, 12:29 AM
Still the same meeting...



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ERC
08-26-2017, 11:04 PM
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On to Pukekohe Club Circuit. Not sure of the exact date, (see Milan's posts following) other than it was after the Whenuapai 1985 meeting above - same roll of film. Not such good quality but someone may appreciate them.
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ERC
08-26-2017, 11:08 PM
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Not really a motorsport pic, but taken at Rainbow's End
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The NSCC team of flag marshals I hooked into, just like the Motorsport Club today, were out most weekends, and my good friends Keith and Liz Andrew were in the thick of it. Kevin, waving the start flag here, is now well known to some of you, as a keen member of the Waitemata VCC, running his MG or Wolseley Hornet special.

This was probably April 21st 1985 and I think, Riverhead, but I could be wrong, as I was still in non-diary mode.
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Milan Fistonic
08-26-2017, 11:34 PM
These are the results from a sprint meeting held on the Club Circuit. I think it was held on March 31 1985. Should help you to identify some of the cars.

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ERC
08-27-2017, 10:26 PM
Thanks Milan - yet again.



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Not the best pic, but possibly Paul Adams - who I have to say was such a gentleman to the marshals.
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ERC
08-28-2017, 01:08 AM
Not the sharpest of photographs unfortunately, but as I spent so much time scanning them, published for better or worse!


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chaindrive
08-28-2017, 01:11 AM
Great pair of Bristols post 1674!!!!!

ERC
08-29-2017, 12:31 AM
Agree chaindrive!



Labelled as a Mazda, but is it a Datsun? Sorry, not so hot on many Japanese cars of that era - or any other era for that matter.
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ERC
08-29-2017, 12:38 AM
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John McKechnie
08-29-2017, 01:10 AM
Would that be Brian Tasker in the red Mini ?

ERC
08-29-2017, 09:56 PM
Sorry John, I have no idea! No doubt others will know.



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Skip forward to October 1985 - and my first ever race! An Allegro Equipe might not be everyone's first choice of a race debut car, but it was all I had at the time. A little nose heavy and not as balanced as the 1300cc Allegro, but I loved that car to bits. A genuine 100mph out of the box with the twin carb 1750cc motor. In the whole time I owned it, the only failure was a 50c circlip on a driveshaft.

I'm not sure if the car still exists but I keep saying I'll contact the last owner to see what happened to it. I'd even consider restoring it!
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I have no idea of the car makes here...
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ERC
08-30-2017, 12:11 AM
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Milan Fistonic
08-30-2017, 03:03 AM
I don't have the programme for the the November meeting but this one from December 8 1985 should help you identify some of the cars.

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Andrew Metford
08-30-2017, 03:52 AM
LJ1459 is no longer registered.

ERC
08-30-2017, 04:17 AM
Sorry Andrew, it later had the personalised plate "EQUIPE", but hasn't been on the road for a few years now.

Andrew Metford
08-30-2017, 04:41 AM
Since 1 Feb 1999!! Good luck finding it.

Roger Dowding
08-30-2017, 06:02 AM
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Great photos, love the Riley Elf.
Who remembers reading about the MG Gnat ? Which was a normal Mini body with a Elf / Hornet type bonnet and a grille with an MG badge. It ran in the UK in the 1970's looked great, always thought the extra room in Elf bonnet would be great for the carbs in a cross flow head Mini.. work like an air scoop

John McKechnie
08-30-2017, 06:34 AM
Ray- thought I saw that EQUIPE plate on Rays dark blue Bond when it was in my workshop 10 years ago

ERC
08-30-2017, 08:24 AM
Still on the CARJAM site as on the Allegro, but as Andrew states, been off the road for a fair time.

Yes Roger, remember the Gnat. My intention with my last Elf, was to do a Broadspeed rear end but pressure on garage space when we bought the modern Cooper S in 2002, saw both my Riley Elf shells go for scrap. When you look at the bodywork behind the rear wheels, the Elf/Hornet shape would have been better than the standard Mini.

ERC
08-30-2017, 09:40 PM
I'm guessing this was about November 1985.
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ERC
08-31-2017, 01:20 AM
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Paul Walbran in 'Joseph'.
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Andrew Metford
08-31-2017, 03:32 AM
Mr Walbran in the MGB ( Joseph ).

ERC
09-01-2017, 03:26 AM
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I think these might have been about February 1986
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ERC
09-01-2017, 10:09 PM
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ERC
09-02-2017, 12:30 AM
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End of the film so the next two are tatty images from less than perfect negatives. I think this was the first time I'd actually got excited about photographing a specific type of car and the pity is I didn't have the modern digital equipment to do it justice.
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This famous Lola 212 as mentioned once before, was bought in the UK by my lodger at the time, on behalf of a Kiwi, and is now owned by Billy Apple. Towing that car behind an 1116cc Mini from Cheshire to Nottingham was an interesting exercise.
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Dave Walker's youngest daughter was best mates with my wife's daughter. Dave, Richard Atkinson (below) and Alan Lacey (TVR) seemed to have similar car collections as all were also members of the Reliant Scimitar Club. To date, I think these are still the only Volvo 3 Litre Marcos in NZ.
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Little did I know that 5 years later, this Marcos would be mine... To this day, the only car that I have ever owned that wasn't a direct descendent of the old BMC/BL/Rover/MG/Land Rover stable. Oh, and the only RWD car I have ever owned other than the Magnette.
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Rod Grimwood
09-02-2017, 01:26 AM
Yellow Mazda is Peter Yates and Brian Connell, Red Chevette is Rex Rattenbury with V8 Rover power, this car is still rallying and winnig class in Australia. Holds rally car lap record for Bay Park which is for ever now. Think black RX3 is Possum, only did couple events in this car.

Rod Grimwood
09-02-2017, 01:28 AM
Dave Smythe, quick Escort and well driven. He still has this as well.

ERC
09-03-2017, 10:15 AM
Thanks Rod. Just shows that in the case of Possum for example, you never really know when you take a photograph, that the subject may go on to greater things.

Currently reading 'Shunt', the story of James Hunt, written by Tom Rubython, (800 pages!) and there is only one photograph they found of James Hunt racing his Mini.

ERC
09-03-2017, 09:38 PM
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Paula's 19 year old son acquired this Armstrong Siddely from a Hauraki Plains farmer for $300. it was languishing in a shed, unused for ages. Squirt of new fuel and a battery and it fired up. He thought it would be worth a fortune and it hung around out in the street for a long time before he realised it was never going to sell without a decent restoration.

The only car I have driven with a pre-selector gearbox.

The Capri was given a quick respray without any real effort to replace the dodgy bits, but at least he raised some of the money for a deposit on his first house - and was mortgage free by the time he was 23.
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I have no idea exactly when or where this was taken as it is just the one frame in the middle of a roll of film. September 1986 is my best guess.
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Roger Dowding
09-04-2017, 01:35 AM
The Escort is the Bruce Manon one, there have been a few photos of it on Facebook recently, in this logo and another. Jim Short has a photo of Bruce Spinning at Rothmans curve Pukekohe right in front of Jim's Porsche.. now must try to find it !!

Rod Grimwood
09-04-2017, 04:21 AM
Bruces car on display down at Auckland waterfront motorshow way back in mid 80s, we took Sports Sedans for show. stripped Commodore was Brett Willis, see front and door stored behind Bruces Escort, blue white Escort me and George with the good ole Mustang. Our stand actually generated a pretty good interest. Other cars there as well.

Rod Grimwood
09-04-2017, 04:23 AM
Roger, think that photo has been seen by just about every person in motorsport, Poor Jim still septic.

ERC
09-05-2017, 04:52 AM
I do keep saying it is a Mix of Pics...
A temporary switch to Agfa film, but I really don't care for the colours.


Never have I felt more inadequately prepared to deal with a track disaster, than when marshalling at the first truck races, April 22/23 1990. Frightening... Later events proved that to be a justified worry, but thankfully, I wasn't at that meeting.
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January 1st 1990, I restarted keeping a daily diary, something I have managed to maintain to this day. I haven't checked the diary for location, but at least the date is correct.

Woodhill (or is it Riverhead?) October 28th 1990.
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ERC
09-06-2017, 12:30 AM
British Car Day at Western Springs, November 1990. I'd reverted to Kodak film...



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ERC
09-06-2017, 03:56 AM
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ERC
09-06-2017, 09:49 PM
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This was the first public showing of Derek Prior's MGB, which went on to have a very illustrious race career, first with Derek, then Greg Bellingham and finally, the late Tony Sturm. Tony had that horrific crash at Taupo which put him in hospital for about three months and was one of the reasons that led to my decision to retire.

The remains were acquired by Andy Culpin and the engine will find itself in another car - eventually.
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ERC
09-07-2017, 01:25 AM
Whenuapai 1991


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Yet another rally - without consulting the diary, date unknown but guessing about May 1991.
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John McKechnie
09-07-2017, 04:04 AM
Mark Parsons in the yellow Monaro.- Gerni Waterblasters on the side, a few cars also had this

Limezed
09-07-2017, 09:41 AM
You hardly ever see people playing golf on the side of the race track nowadays.

stubuchanan
09-07-2017, 10:02 AM
You hardly ever see people playing golf on the side of the race track nowadays.

These are fearless military people of the RNZAF Golf Club, Whenuapai. They probably have right of way over military planes as well.

Stu

ERC
09-07-2017, 09:57 PM
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Rod Grimwood
09-07-2017, 11:56 PM
Glen (Jigger) Jones in EIT truck, this was last event that Glen did as illness took over. Never forgotten and RIP Glen

Rod Grimwood
09-07-2017, 11:58 PM
Andy Walker and he still pedals car.

Growler
09-08-2017, 03:16 AM
British Car Day at Western Springs, November 1990. I'd reverted to Kodak film...



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Is that Steve Habershons Scimitar GTC? I thought it was Yellow?

ERC
09-08-2017, 10:21 PM
Last of the rally pics from this event.



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I haven't dated this accurately. I can't pinpoint the event, but I do know it is at Chelsea Sugar Works, some time before November 1992.
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Maybe Lance Roskilly?
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ERC
09-09-2017, 02:15 AM
These were taken at what appeared to be a fairly informal Classic meet at Ellerslie 22nd November 1992 - not the concours. At this stage, I knew the Marcos needed a full body off restoration so I was experimenting with paints as I patched up scuffed and stone chipped bodywork.
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One of the few Dinky Toys I have not yet sold to fund my 'habit', is the Aceca.
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Not much for Spgeti recently... I haven't seen this ISO since.
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NZ made 'Tron'. Looked smart but was apparently a little expensive.
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ERC
09-09-2017, 09:47 PM
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Whenuapai 1993. The placement of tyre bundles didn't make life easy - photographically. I was competing in my last race before the full restoration, so these won't have been taken from a flag point.
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ERC
09-10-2017, 02:10 AM
Not everyone found their way around easily, but as these are consecutive on the film, maybe there was oil around?
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Father and son, Nev & Glen Thompson left the MGBs at home and turned up with this Marina.
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Andrew Metford
09-10-2017, 09:45 AM
Is Escort #149 Dave Melina ( maybe spelt wrong ) ? RS2000? What ever happened to Dave, and to the car?

ERC
09-10-2017, 08:26 PM
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Albany Sprint. I'm not sure of the date as yet, but still in the middle of 1993
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ERC
09-11-2017, 10:26 PM
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Taken at East Tamaki whilst Ed Vaughn was rebuilding the Marcos chassis. Thanks to John McKechnie, identified as a Plymouth.
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Chelsea Hillclimb 1993. Ian's Singer
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My favourite Austin 7 special - complete with Lion Red catch tank...
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ERC
09-12-2017, 03:22 AM
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January 1994 - Pukekohe
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Nude Marcos
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Ellerslie 1994
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Is this a GTD? Built 1990
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ERC
09-12-2017, 10:05 PM
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Not sure whether or not this is still the scanner playing up or the original was slightly out of focus! Hamilton Street race 1994. (It is out of focus. I just checked...)
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According to the programme, this is Steve Ward's Sylva Srtiker but that should be Sylva Striker... Some of my earlier pics from Hamilton were from slides. Those I have been posting for the last week or three have all been from negative film.
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John McKechnie
09-12-2017, 10:15 PM
Ray- thanks buddy, thats me in my Mustang- Dean Cameron has owned for 20+ years now a HMC car, even Dale owned it and raced it.
And Raydon with the ex Jim Richards car, also still running strong in HSC
The length of time Raydon has owned it is 30+ years- yet its still JRs ex., crazy world

ERC
09-13-2017, 02:33 AM
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Roger Dowding
09-13-2017, 05:52 AM
The Healey [ BT7 ] was Phil Mules at the time, Hamilton 1994.
Ray I was there too !! and took a few photos including Phil's,car went to Bernie Huynen and has recently been refurbished, it is now Black.
The MGB the Red / White one is, I think, Derek Priors, not sure if in his ownership at this meeting,I photographed again in 1990 at the All British Day at Western Springs

ERC
09-13-2017, 08:14 AM
See post #1709 Roger, re the Prior MGB. You may have missed it. Yes, he was running at that meeting.

Car #4 is Geoff Broadhead, a long time MGCC official. I bought an MG Metro off him that had done over 250,000 kms - and the head had never been lifted.

I did find my Hamilton race programme - eventually. I think Philip Mules owned the McDonald's franchise in Rotorua at the time. I'm pretty sure he also joined Maurice O'Reilly (creator of Chicane Racewear) with a Kiwi race team at the Nurburgring, a trip Maurice made more than once.

I didn't buy a car from Maurice, but did buy Chicane, with Shane Drake, in 2000!

Incidentally, Roger, you may have missed the book Maurice wrote - 'A Series Of Small Explosions'. Hilarious. I'm sure you'd appreciate it, so if you want a copy, I'll contact Maurice, as I'm sure he distributed it himself. The only disappointment is that the proof reading was less than perfect. Pet hate of mine is not so much the factual errors in any book, but basic spelling/typo errors.

Sadly, it happens even in books where you would think that the proof reading would be spot on. Currently well through the 700 page book 'Shunt' by Tom Rubython. Seeing 'bare' rather than 'bear', or 'sowing' instead of 'sewing', is fairy amateurish. One or two facts are also incorrect, as James Hunt couldn't have been the 37th name on the F1 trophy, 27th, yes, but not 37th. An interesting read though.

Added later: Reading the 2014 Mini owner's handbook today and they put 'curb' instead of 'kerb'... BMW obviously missing the finer points of the English language.

Allan
09-13-2017, 07:31 PM
Second to last line, should that be "fairly" not "fairy"?

ERC
09-13-2017, 08:39 PM
Second to last line, should that be "fairly" not "fairy"?
LOL. Yup, I'm as guilty as anyone with typos and often find them later - but I can't correct it now can I. But there again, 'fairy amateurish' could refer to lightweight proof reading?



Sadly, neither of these guys is still with us. Jim Chrystall (Wolseley) and Bryan Wyness (Mini). Bryan was one of the early winners of our series top trophy, for sportsmanship on and off the track.

Bryan died in a motorcycle accident. These pics were from what was then the BMC Series for 4 cylinder cars - and I'm sure that Healey is a six!
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Neil Goodwin had acquired the Magnette from Steve Whitren by this time and later scaled back to Classic Trials. I could be wrong here, but I think the Magnette also sported a cross-flow head, just like the Wolseley. Somewhere I do have a photograph of the under bonnet.
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Tucked in behind Derek's MGB I think is the late Tony Sturm's MGB. No doubt Tony had no inkling that one day, he would later own the other car.
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Graham Elstone Austin A35 - in the programme as an Autin... I haven't seen that car since.
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Dave Mallin is still campaigning this MGB - in additional to the V8
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ERC
09-14-2017, 08:49 PM
A bit of fast forwarding here as many of this period have already been scanned and some have been shown on this thread earlier.


Marcos now fully clothed and en route to its post rebuild debut, November 1995. Paula's MR2 after its rebuild following a crash when a young lady panicked on a wet road corner in Browns bay, braked, locked up her Honda and slid straight into it. The MR2 was one of the very earliest made, with the 1500cc engine - which to be honest, was totally underpowered and less economical than my 2 litre MG Montego Efi.
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I am not sure of the date for this meeting, I need to check the diary again... I suspect the undated negative file has been incorrectly labelled.
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Dianne Sharpe's Marcos was originally a V4, then converted to V6. The person who bought it passed away and it hasn't been seen since. On my list of things to do, is to try contact his widow and maybe rescue the car, but I fear it will need a full restoration. If anyone has any later news of it, I'd be pleased to hear from them.
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Roger Dowding
09-14-2017, 09:02 PM
In the latest issue of Classic Driver is an advert for the sale of this Healey. Reg # BT7.

Also an article on the Dave Silcock / Steve Millen Clive Gott Peter Sundberg Mark 11 Jaguar,now rebuilt and reunited with Peter Sundberg - worth the read..

ERC
09-16-2017, 02:22 AM
Western Springs 1995 November
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But this is Chelsea and I have no diary note as to when this was!
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I don't seem to have a programme for Whenuapai 1996 - even though I was running... This is Maurice O'Reilly with a Ralt RT4. Sold to Australia - and Maurice wishes he'd never sold it!
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ERC
09-16-2017, 11:01 PM
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With the new 14" wheels and better front brakes. The 149 number relates to 1 more day of being 49 before hitting the big 50! Also before getting the car dinged by an over exuberant overtaker (in a slower car!) who forced another car into a spin and I clipped it, taking a chunk out of the left rear wing.

Some well known cars in the background.
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On to the UK and the Goodwood festival of Speed 1996. A damp stop for breakfast before Goodwood itself, and the Ecurie Ecosse transporter across the road from the little Chef car park! It was the usually UK Goodwood weather as you can see.
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ERC
09-18-2017, 01:09 AM
There is always a lot to see off the hill-climb and a day there is never wasted, but not in the same league as the Revival, but still a sell out.
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The first NZ owner of this V8 Mantula brought it around for me to sample. Later, I bid for it at auction and although I was top bidder, it didn't make reserve and I was unwilling (unable!) to go higher. I haven't seen it for a while.
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ERC
09-19-2017, 01:27 AM
Back in 1997 was when I was asked to take over the BMC Series as convenor and it was with some trepidation that I attended my first meeting at Taupo. At that stage we had a committee which consisted of Derek Prior and Kerry Bowman, with input from Peter Burke (who had a lot to do with building Derek's MG) and Paul Reynolds (Triumph TR8).

We had relaxed the rules from just 4 cylinder BMC cars as there were by then, too few drivers and a series wasn't viable in my opinion. By opening it up to British Leyland, we had a good influx of drivers. At that stage, the format for points was still one scratch race and one handicap.

I had no scanner in those days (who did?) and the guy across the road was a graphic artist. He scanned about 4 pics for me for the early BMC Series newsletter.


The original BMC Series instigator, ten years earlier, was Donn White - black and lime green Clubman.
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Nick Wilcox in 'Fanta', the equal winner that year. The car is still running in the ERC Series with John Palmer.
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Equal first was Jim Chrystall - and we look forward to that car returning to the track, with Arthur Vowles.
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If ever I get around to finishing a book on the first 30 years' history of the series, some of these pics will no doubt be useful.

Spgeti
09-19-2017, 02:12 AM
Arthur had the car out testing last month at Taupo. Still in this livery and with #57 as well.

ERC
09-19-2017, 09:55 PM
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Chris Watson
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When Derek retired from assisting with the series, I fished out the paintbrushes...
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ERC
09-20-2017, 06:26 AM
Arthur had the car out testing last month at Taupo. Still in this livery and with #57 as well.
I have updated Chris Browne's ERC Driver list to put Arthur in at #57, to stop anyone else 'stealing' the number!

Where possible Bruce, as there are cars doing ERC & HSC, it makes sense to avoid number duplications as much as possible.

British/Euro HSC cars usually qualify for ERC, but the reverse isn't always the case. As with Alfa Trofeo, we encourage overlaps as it gives drivers the option of more races or shared drivers.

Spgeti
09-20-2017, 08:38 AM
Arthur will be happy with that Ray, thank you.
We are all about helping each other's group and last year saw the co-operation work really well.
While HMC cars numbers are not a worry for ERC we work very closely with Dale as well to stop duplications.
The historic cars in our group have priority on the numbers and the Worlsely is one of those cars.

Looking forward to the new season.

ERC
09-20-2017, 09:33 PM
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Handicap start.
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British car day was at Pukekohe 1996 it seems.
Lagonda
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Talbot?
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ERC
09-21-2017, 01:44 AM
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Ellerslie 1997. A 100% turnout of the NZ Marcos Volvo 3 litres! Again.
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Can anyone please ID this one for me? Scanner blip again
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ERC
09-22-2017, 09:46 PM
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Whenuapai 1997
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ERC
09-23-2017, 02:28 AM
April 13th 1997 practice day
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Derek's immaculate triple carb MGC
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Auckland Domain hillclimb 4th May 1997. Thanks to Len Brown's mob, where they wanted to charge HRC $5,000 for the use of it, now consigned to history. Yet the council supported the Hero (Gay) parade. Not the sharpest of pics this time so I can't blame the scanner.
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ERC
09-24-2017, 12:47 AM
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ERC
09-24-2017, 09:45 PM
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ERC
09-25-2017, 07:00 AM
Where have all the pictures gone?

John McKechnie
09-25-2017, 08:00 AM
Ray- this is really grand Theft Auto, all your work !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!