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    Quote Originally Posted by AMCO72 View Post
    Further to the above photos..... the tag on the number 3 car says Deusenberg. I doubt very much whether it is, not the engine anyway, as I think I am right in saying all Deusenberg engines were straight 8's........right from the very first one. Lots of those board-racers were Ford powered, and that machine looks to have an after market OHV head, Rajo etc on a 4 cylinder block. Interesting chassis though.

    The give-away that the big black tourer ISNT English is the wheel knock-off hubs. The Germans, Spanish, French and American had these large spinners whereas the English and Italians went for the finer version, mostly 2 eared, sometimes 3. The Spanish Pegaso car had large 2 eared spinners which always looked to me to be out of proportion, but on the German Mercedes Benz cars they looked ok. Even on a Vintage Bentley, itself a large car, the spinners were much finer. I think I have seen pictures of the Stutz classic racing in modern times, but it is on smaller wheels.......probably sensible, as I imagine racing tyres for the large 21inch would be hard to come by.

    I wonder if the Austin 7 Mini still exists ??
    Thanks for the info - the program shows a 1916 Deusenberg Indy - race #3, 5400 cc Entrant / Driver John Thorpe / Nelson Thorpe, so assumed that is the car - there is no photo in the program unlike some other cars in each of the classes.

    The Austin 7 Mini, was sold to a school mate in 1968 [ by then had widened front wheels by Dave Jolley, twin SU's and a modified exhaust by Rob Williams of Allard and Ford V8 Coupe fame, mentioned in the Hillclimbs thread and elsewhere ] the mate rebuilt the engine and used it for a while don't know if it still exists reg was AW 309, as would have had the old style 2 years plates of 6 numbers when new in 1960. Plates were changed every two years and a sticker issued for the second year to confirm registration.
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    Monterey / Laguna Seca is / was supported by many of the " Vintage " racer groups in the USA, including this one

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    Brochure from the meeting in August 1982.

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    A few more photos from Laguna Seca pits

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    Monterey Historics, some Italians.

    Abarth - not listed as an entrant.
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    Abarth the engine
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    Alfa Romeo GTZ - never seen one before.
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    and here are three in a row.
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    and an earlier Alfa - 1900 [ 1955 model ]
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    more to come, trying for groups and a bit alphabetical ;.

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    A is for A.C., Arnolt and Austin - Healey, the British influence

    # 194 John Lewis # 170 Don Davis
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    #247 Ray Cooke, Vancouver BC Canada
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    Arnolt Bristol - an Anglo -American an idea much like the Cobra's but British Chassis, American body.
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    a Speedwell Sprite . Austin - Healey
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    More Italians Abarth Ferrari's and Lancia

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    'scue the spelling in the captions, bad typing.

    Coming up J, K , L, M and S,

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    J, K, L, and M, 5 English and a local.

    Jaguars ;
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    Kurtiss
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    Lister - Jaguar
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    MGA Twincam
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    more to come later - the last that I can find at the moment.
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    Monterey Historics Europeans, some old some new at the time.

    Have never seen so many of these before; Gullwings.
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    " Little Bastard " the name given by James Dean to his 550 Spyder
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    Martini Porsche Vasek Polak Racing - a big racer back in the 60's and on..
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    Gulf Mirage, modern for the day
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    A little Italian - " bellisimo " 1952 Siata 1400
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    That is it for the moment - have several sets of negatives back in NZ with my cousin - never printed, so that will be a long task.
    Enjoy.
    thanks to Ross Cammick for his shots too, we were there together, in the VW Kombi, known as " Chocolate and Custard ", complete with Kiwi stickers
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    Postscript the VW Kombi 751 JMG

    Have just noticed that the dealer details on the number plate surround for " Masterson " " Ventura ", well the Porsche 550 featured above #222 was raced by John Masterson from Ventura, California entered by the CA Vintage Car Co. so maybe the same guy !!

    Cheers

    Roger

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    Re ' That is it for the moment - have several sets of negatives back in NZ with my cousin - never printed, so that will be a long task. '
    Have just found another set of over 20 photo's, so Part II will follow, soon.
    Includes a few unusual ones which need identifying.

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    Interesting Europeans and an English " Hot Rod "..

    The 16 cylinder Auto Union that did demonstration laps
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    Couple of unusual Porsches
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    an English Hot-rod, a bit of Anglo-American - thanks Sidney Allard
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    American Hot-Rod, NO, a 1946 Delahaye 135. had to scour the programme to identify and fortunately there was a B & W picture.
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    A beautiful Coupe ; For Sale too !! Italian ?? or ???.
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    The Pit area was full of non-racing cars, as well as a huge car Corral in the carpark with more great vehicles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger Dowding View Post
    The 16 cylinder Auto Union that did demonstration laps
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    Couple of unusual Porsches
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    an English Hot-rod, a bit of Anglo-American - thanks Sidney Allard
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    American Hot-Rod, NO, a 1946 Delahaye 135. had to scour the programme to identify and fortunately there was a B & W picture.
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    A beautiful Coupe ; For Sale too !! Italian ?? or ???.
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    The Pit area was full of non-racing cars, as well as a huge car Corral in the carpark with more great vehicles.
    Just adore the McLaren in the backround. Was that the one that used to be in NZ?
    I think that the red car for sale is a Lago Talbot

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinner32 View Post
    Just adore the McLaren in the background. Was that the one that used to be in NZ?
    I think that the red car for sale is a Lago Talbot
    Thanks, Spinner32. Lago-Talbot seems correct to me, has a French look to it. ] The Mclaren a 1969 M6B GT [ race # 4, ] was owned by Jack Flaherty from Pebble Beach California, so not far to come for the racing, it is in the background in several of my shots.

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    Some Europeans, some Anglo-American and some others

    Italian combo Fiat-Abarth-Zagato tiny but stylish.
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    Italian another Lancia B20
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    Anglo-American and early American
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    Anglo-Americans surround the McLaren.
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    The Germans with an Anglo-German in silver, Pete Lovely / Vasek Polak Elva-Porsche
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    Ferrari 250 TR, 1958 model

    Reposting the " Ferrari 250 TR pontoon fender "

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    as has a bit of History - notes from the programme.
    2995 cc ; chassis # 0718TR, ran at Laguna Seca by William Chizar.
    " Owned by Ecurie Belge and raced by Lucien Bianchi, 1958 Goodwood fifth, 1958 Silverstone sixth, 1958 Le Mans dnf, by Willie Mairesse and Lucien Bianchi. Brought to California in 1959, raced at Riverside 1959 by Pedro Rodriquez. Bought and raced by Gordie Glyer.

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    Engines and some Porsche's

    Engines
    Ol Yella II - Buick V8
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    Ferrari Flat 12
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    McLaren - Chevrolet V8
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    Porsche, Porsche, Porsche.
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    Some Ferrari's to follow, the last of pictures I have located.

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    Ferrari's

    Can't find the " flip ' function so this is as printed when developed in 1982..
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    Red #46 around the right way.
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    from the rear.
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    Think this is the car that the engine featured in the Engines and Porsche's post above
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    That is all I have for now.
    any corrections or information appreciated as many cars racing numbers were not the same as the programme, and some cars were there on display only.

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    1982 Laguna Seca

    Roger has suggested I post some more photos from this event we both attended.

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    1982 Laguna Seca

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    1982 Laguna Seca

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