What you are saying Habu ,is that these things are just hotted up VW's!!!!! I didn't ask you to come out and hit me between the eyes, which is what youv'e done, but I thought it was just me that couldn't stand them!!!!!!. You do mean 'autocrosser' and not 'crossdresser' don't you!!! By the way, was the bodywork, or some of it glass-fibre?.... The first 911 was the best, but who am I to talk, I'm not a Porsche fan, and thats putting it mildly. The person we should be asking of course is JIM......come in Jim. But don't get Jim going on Spyders, especially home-made Spyders, or we will here all day.