Absolutely no doubt about it Oldfart. They are twins, as I said in P123. For a start the Crosley does not have a front that lifts up, although the front has lifted and completely gone on one of them.. the swage line along the door, positive camber rear axle, same instrument panel, same windscreen, windup windows. The bloke must have been going to make one out of two, instead both have died and gone to heaven. Our American correspondent had some good things to say about the Crosley, and the stuff he has unearthed seems to back this up, but I will bet my bottom dollar that not one car has survived.