Historic Sport Sedans

[AMCO72]

Totally agree with Rod, ERC, etc. Talking of 'Hotrods', at the Southern Festival of Speed a couple of years ago, I competed against a Mk1 Escort that reputedly had a 300 hp engine fitted. It was a beautifully built car and a credit to the owner, but it was having 'issues' getting a COD, not sure why!!!!! I am sure during the racing that the driver did not utilize all of the reputed hp, as he raced round quite happily with rest of us, whereas I am also sure that he could have blown us all into the weeds, but chose not to.
Perhaps other 'hotrod' drivers wouldn't be able to resist the temptation to show their pace, but this Guy was doing the right thing and it was a pleasure to race with.
While I would normally be against stuffing 300 hp engines in cars that originally raced with half that amount, on this occasion it worked for everyone because the Guy exercised a bit of common sense.

And, yes I know that Custaxie II is not the original, but it is near enough to show folk what it was like in the old days. I for one would welcome its appearance at the Festival. We don't have the luxury of over subscribed grids YET, but it may come, then we can get picky.

[touringcarfan]

Is there a time frame for typing a message? I have tried twice and not been allowed to proceed.
Anthony

[Steve Holmes]

Is there a time frame for typing a message? I have tried twice and not been allowed to proceed.
Anthony

No, usually not, and it should auto-save as you're typing, unless you're reeeeeaaaalllllyyyy slow to type a post. Might just be that you've got your log in settings done such a way you're timing out of your log in? If for whatever reason I'm not logged in, when I go to log in I tick the box that asks if I want to stay logged in.

[nigel watts]

Dare I say it, but I was a spectator back in the 60's and I, as a spectator, couldn't tell you whether the Custaxie2 was the original or a replica and to be honest I don't really care either way. I just want to see interesting cars on the track be it original or replica.
As you've no doubt gathered I'm not a purist, so if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck then as far as I'm concerned it is a duck. Would I prefer a grid of 20 or so legitimate cars or 40+ cars that all look period correct and provide some excitement for the paying punters - you need to ask? Oh well, there's always the Central Muscle Cars and Pre 65's to fall back on.

[Malcolm McLeod]

John, I can't wait to see this car at HD - and I don't know where I'm gonna find the money from, but I'd like to contribute $100 to the cause ON CONDITION that us flaggies get a thank you wave at the finish of each race! PM me the details, or email me MrMalcolmMcLeod@gmail.com

Here is Barry Algies Monaro that i photoed yesterday.This car is exactly as it last ran. Yes , the front is off being glassed.
This would be one of the first Sports Sedans as he was working on it in 1975.
Barry needs financial assistance as he is getting on in years and no regular income.
Any help here can be seen as sponsorship or recognition by having your name written on this highly visible billboard.
My name and business is going on, who else wants to be part of this?
Will be posting more pics today.
Barry left my place just now to place his entry, join HRC and pay more off the radiator bill.
Gordon Burr is entered so both the Algie creations will be there
With these cars, it is preferable to have a rolling start so that will be looked in to.
Technically-
Motor completely set back, new firewall,spoiler width of the car, same height as the roof.
Small block 400, 327 crank, with Lucas fuel injection .
Simple interior and note the ducting to the radiator and GT40 transaxle.
Mechanically unchanged or updated- pure history here.
Yes it will be at HD in Jan and running hard, both car and driver a worthy addition to this Historic field.

[Rod Grimwood]

Ok sorry if I offend anyone but that's enough.

If you can not be positive on the 'Festival" thread, then don't push any buttons, and more so if you are not involved keep it to yourself. People are starting to get a little pissed with the negative bits, and sorry but it is the same as the negative bits when George tried.
Put up or shut up as we are trying, and do not need negative attitudes right now.

PS I have had a competitor wonder 'Is this worth while' after reading the thread, so back off and blow your little trumpets elsewhere.
If you stuff this be prepared for some Vaseline, because I will not have negative people (a minority) stuff it for the real people.

As I have said, 'If you are involved with a car' contact me or John McKechnie, if not go to the other thread about 'hot rods' and sort it there. This is for the Festival and 'Invited guest's' to put it bluntly, no more crap or I will start.

Nigel and co. please keep your support up.

Regards
Rod Grimwood

PS please don't piss me off

[John McKechnie]

John, I can't wait to see this car at HD - and I don't know where I'm gonna find the money from, but I'd like to contribute $100 to the cause ON CONDITION that us flaggies get a thank you wave at the finish of each race! PM me the details, or email me MrMalcolmMcLeod@gmail.com

Malcolm, you guys do a great job and I know that at drivers briefing we are always reminded to remember to wave to the flaggies at the end of a race..I know our guys are so keen to be out there they definitely wont forget you.

[John McKechnie]

This thread set out to inform you all of the direction of historic Sports sedans as there has been huge interest in them.
The class for Hampton Downs mid Jan is –Pre 85 Invited Allcomers and Historic Sports Sedans.
Invited are Historic Sports Sedans, Allcomers, Period replicas of Allcomers where they don’t exist anymore and Oscas.

There are no rules for this class, everyone here is invited.

We welcome these cars and driver with open arms in the spirit of Historic Racing which allows this to happen.
You can all come along to watch and enjoy, and this class can grow with your positive support.
I am not telling the world who is coming, all will be revealed in the program and on the day.
As the coordinator for the class, I am conscious that this class is unknown and people want to discuss it.
However this is an information thread and not a discussion forum on rules, regulations, who you think should be on the grid and who not.
Please go to another thread or forum for that purpose , and don’t spoil the pleasure of those who really want to see this special event happen.

The drivers, crew , sponsors all see this as a fantastic opportunity to entertain us, their loyal adoring fans and I am not prepared to see all their hard work damaged by negative , unsuitable and uncomplimentary posts..

Those that ignore this polite message will be reminded by all of us out here.
If anyone has an appropriate car which they feel should be on the grid, please pm me or contact Jim Barclay.
Regards
John

[Steve Holmes]

Yep, well said John, I completely agree. This is such a great concept, and the talk of car numbers to me just don't matter. I'm personally not interested in seeing a large grid, I want to see quality over quantity, as each of these historic cars is larger than life, and tells its own story. Even if this was a high speed demonstration, I'd be happy, as I just want to see these amazing machines back out and circulating once more. Each car is individual and unique, and very special in its own way, as it is the result of its builders vivid imagination, designed and constructed in a very colourful era which rewarded creative thinking.

[Steve Holmes]

Here it is, the car chase scene from the old 1980s Shaker Run movie, featuring the Capri Sports Sedan of Brian Friend (former Brent Bullivant, Graham Baker, Bob Cullinane) and now owned by Graham Barnes. A pretty good chase scene by all accounts, through the streets of Wellington city and up the Rimutaka Hill:

[Steve Holmes]

And a bit more inspiration, late 1980s Sports Sedan race from Pukekohe.

[Steve Holmes]

And Race 2, from the same event, now with the two Corvettes running. Note the Barry Algie Monaro towards the rear of the field also.

[Rod Grimwood]

Here it is, the car chase scene from the old 1980s Shaker Run movie, featuring the Capri Sports Sedan of Brian Friend (former Brent Bullivant, Graham Baker, Bob Cullinane) and now owned by Graham Barnes. A pretty good chase scene by all accounts, through the streets of Wellington city and up the Rimutaka Hill:

Lance Johnson (of speedway Fame) actually drove the Capri for the scene, and Peter Bell did a lot of the stunt work. I actually was Pete's safety man for a lot of different stunts and movies back in the old days (1976-90) and also did a bit of driving back then.

[Steve Holmes]

That is very cool Rod! I have to say, it was a very well executed chase scene. Will the Capri be at the Festival?

[Spgeti]

I just love the Capri, Frenzia, RX7/8 and the Custaxi II at Manfeild recently. First time I have seen the Custaxi II run and having never seen the original to me it made all the right noises and performed well. Go for it guys' and good luck and heres hoping for a good turn out. Cheers, Bruce

[CUSTAXIE50]

This thread set out to inform you all of the direction of historic Sports sedans as there has been huge interest in them.
The class for Hampton Downs mid Jan is –Pre 85 Invited Allcomers and Historic Sports Sedans.
Invited are Historic Sports Sedans, Allcomers, Period replicas of Allcomers where they don’t exist anymore and Oscas.

There are no rules for this class, everyone here is invited.

We welcome these cars and driver with open arms in the spirit of Historic Racing which allows this to happen.
You can all come along to watch and enjoy, and this class can grow with your positive support.
I am not telling the world who is coming, all will be revealed in the program and on the day.
As the coordinator for the class, I am conscious that this class is unknown and people want to discuss it.
However this is an information thread and not a discussion forum on rules, regulations, who you think should be on the grid and who not.
Please go to another thread or forum for that purpose , and don’t spoil the pleasure of those who really want to see this special event happen.

The drivers, crew , sponsors all see this as a fantastic opportunity to entertain us, their loyal adoring fans and I am not prepared to see all their hard work damaged by negative , unsuitable and uncomplimentary posts..

Those that ignore this polite message will be reminded by all of us out here.
If anyone has an appropriate car which they feel should be on the grid, please pm me or contact Jim Barclay.
Regards
John

How easy was that to do i understand what you are saying,i think when someone puts the words PERIOD-CORRECT up ,the ones who dont come from the state house side of the railway tracks get on here ,to take away the fun the drivers would get putting their cars out there, and the fun seeing them out there by those who wish to go along to this meeting. Get them all out there black-white-pink who gives a shit-----now what could me and my boy bring to this party.

[Rod Grimwood]

That is very cool Rod! I have to say, it was a very well executed chase scene. Will the Capri be at the Festival?

Hopefully Steve, I have to catch up with Mr Barnes, he's a nice guy. He had an engine problem at Manfield but hopefully has it sorted.

[Rod Grimwood]

Custaxie, don't know if you have noticed in some of my previous post's, but a CHILLY BIN is a start.

Catch ya

[TonyG]

As someone who grew up watching, idolizing and dreaming about these cars and their drivers, I can not believe that people would not be happy to see the cars of yesteryear.
As many of you have seen, I have posted what photos I have of these beasts and I for one would be happy to attend a race meeting where I could drool over them again whether real or replica, I would rather see these than fields of BMW's, Jappa's, assd roadgoing sportscars etc. NO disrespect to any of those classes, but that is just my choice. They just don't do it for me personally.
Some of the old cars are well gone now and I just don't understand why a Replica could not be built to visually look like the original as per Custaxie and run. Surely #1 Safety and #2 Reliability are the 2 key factors. EG Bad example but the Coppins Zephyr Corvette. Doesn't have to have a race engine in it just something reliable and small block Chev with more modern roadcar suspension and brakes for safety/reliability.
Yes the red mist will descend etc etc etc but is that not why you have stewards, other drivers etc to tell them to pull the reins in if they get a bit carried away as they will still get a Chocalate fish no matter where they are on the track at the end of their run.
I would love to be able to fly home and see the likes of the Custaxie, Merc Sports sedan, Addis Charger, Moffat Capri, and even Clark Proctors Nissan? Escort but unfortunately that can not happen so I will rely on Nigel etc for their wonderful photos.
Bring them on I say.
Rod - Any chance you will dig your beast out from under the rubble, give it a wash and have it on display as well? I am sure there are many like me who would like to see it, mobile or not after all these years. Same with Bob Homewoods Escort, doesn't have to be running to be seen and would sure give added publicity to the cause.
Cheers
Tony

[CUSTAXIE50]

[QUOTE=Rod Grimwood;36124]Custaxie, don't know if you have noticed in some of my previous post's, but a CHILLY BIN is a start.

Catch ya[/QUOTE We will see.